by Villain » Wed Oct 27, 2021 9:00 am
Snakes wrote: ↑Wed Oct 27, 2021 8:51 am
Villain wrote: ↑Wed Oct 27, 2021 8:39 am
Snakes wrote: ↑Wed Oct 27, 2021 8:33 am
Villain wrote: ↑Wed Oct 27, 2021 7:23 am
SolarSolano wrote: ↑Tue Oct 26, 2021 1:12 pm
I think stories like the wife and black stranger thing may have also been made-up. Sam DeStefano Jr. (son of Mario and a Grand Ave associate himself) shared some insight on his uncle in the old facebook group. Most of the stories were just bullshit. Mad Sam's wife also wrote a cooking book after Sam passed away if I am not mistaken.
I think theres a police report in which the black dude reported Mad Sam to the cops and his lunch box was found in Sams car.
Regarding Sam DeStefano Jr, i think he was involved in the burglary biz together with Jimmy Legs, Sal Romano, Guy Altobello, Joe Basinski, Robert Paul and Willie Brown. These Grand Av associates usually received orders from guys like that corrupt cop Bill Hanhardt and also the Indian Schiro, and probably from other Grand members too, like the Ant and the Mooch.
James D'Antonio, too
I already mentioned Jimmy Legs lol
Sorry, can't read
Its ok bud.
The so-called “masterminds” of the group were allegedly Schiro and Hanhardt, but the “leader of the pack” was allegedly Basinski. He was a long time partner in crime with both men and he was the one who gathered all of the guys and later directed all activities.
Basinski’s job was also to identify the potential targets by doing physical surveillance and running database searches, and later through telephone calls he informed his people regarding the target. If it was needed, he even recruited additional members for big time jobs and also fenced the stolen loot.
Altobello’s job was to provide the other members of the crew with information regarding jewellery salespersons who conducted business with Altobello Jewelers, Inc., which was his personal jewellery store, and in addition to identifying salespersons, Altobello also provided information about the type and quality of merchandise they carried and how it was transported, their schedules, the vehicle license plates, and the type of vehicles they drove. In fact, he provided crucial information about the targets, thus making him an important and a significant contributor to the operations.
D’Antonio’s job was to provide the gang with all the needed tools and instruments for the operation in order to assist in gaining access to vehicles, hotel rooms, safety deposit boxes and other locations, also tools to avoid detection or to escape law enforcement, including locksmith tools, key-making machines, related publications, automobile instruction books, automobile keys, hotel keys, key blanks, lock picks, "slim jims," smoke grenades, fake mustaches and fake beard, key cutting dies, wrenches and other hand tools, evasion devices, taser, cam set, key cutters, bullet proof vests, cameras, listening devices, and key code books. In other words, the guy had everything.
Robert Paul was the guy with the mobile phones, walkie-talkies and all kinds of electronic communicators and Sal Romano knew how to handle alarms and he often traveled to Las Vegas where he operated with the “Hole in the Wall” gang, which in turn were betrayed by Romano since he wore a wire for the feds since 1979.
Now, usually the guys which did the street stuff or “dirty work” were Willy Brown, Basinski, DeStefano Jr and Schiro, or sometimes only Schiro managed to finish the job all by himself. Confidential informants identified DeStefano Jr, Basinski, Altobello and Brown as associates, while Schiro and D’Antonio were identified as members of the Outfit.
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I think stories like the wife and black stranger thing may have also been made-up. Sam DeStefano Jr. (son of Mario and a Grand Ave associate himself) shared some insight on his uncle in the old facebook group. Most of the stories were just bullshit. Mad Sam's wife also wrote a cooking book after Sam passed away if I am not mistaken.
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I think theres a police report in which the black dude reported Mad Sam to the cops and his lunch box was found in Sams car.
Regarding Sam DeStefano Jr, i think he was involved in the burglary biz together with Jimmy Legs, Sal Romano, Guy Altobello, Joe Basinski, Robert Paul and Willie Brown. These Grand Av associates usually received orders from guys like that corrupt cop Bill Hanhardt and also the Indian Schiro, and probably from other Grand members too, like the Ant and the Mooch.
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James D'Antonio, too
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I already mentioned Jimmy Legs lol
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Sorry, can't read
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Its ok bud.
The so-called “masterminds” of the group were allegedly Schiro and Hanhardt, but the “leader of the pack” was allegedly Basinski. He was a long time partner in crime with both men and he was the one who gathered all of the guys and later directed all activities.
Basinski’s job was also to identify the potential targets by doing physical surveillance and running database searches, and later through telephone calls he informed his people regarding the target. If it was needed, he even recruited additional members for big time jobs and also fenced the stolen loot.
Altobello’s job was to provide the other members of the crew with information regarding jewellery salespersons who conducted business with Altobello Jewelers, Inc., which was his personal jewellery store, and in addition to identifying salespersons, Altobello also provided information about the type and quality of merchandise they carried and how it was transported, their schedules, the vehicle license plates, and the type of vehicles they drove. In fact, he provided crucial information about the targets, thus making him an important and a significant contributor to the operations.
D’Antonio’s job was to provide the gang with all the needed tools and instruments for the operation in order to assist in gaining access to vehicles, hotel rooms, safety deposit boxes and other locations, also tools to avoid detection or to escape law enforcement, including locksmith tools, key-making machines, related publications, automobile instruction books, automobile keys, hotel keys, key blanks, lock picks, "slim jims," smoke grenades, fake mustaches and fake beard, key cutting dies, wrenches and other hand tools, evasion devices, taser, cam set, key cutters, bullet proof vests, cameras, listening devices, and key code books. In other words, the guy had everything.
Robert Paul was the guy with the mobile phones, walkie-talkies and all kinds of electronic communicators and Sal Romano knew how to handle alarms and he often traveled to Las Vegas where he operated with the “Hole in the Wall” gang, which in turn were betrayed by Romano since he wore a wire for the feds since 1979.
Now, usually the guys which did the street stuff or “dirty work” were Willy Brown, Basinski, DeStefano Jr and Schiro, or sometimes only Schiro managed to finish the job all by himself. Confidential informants identified DeStefano Jr, Basinski, Altobello and Brown as associates, while Schiro and D’Antonio were identified as members of the Outfit.