by newera_212 » Sun Apr 12, 2020 12:50 pm
furiofromnaples wrote: ↑Sat Apr 11, 2020 5:10 am
Sometimes outsiders was made in oc groups in which they should'nt be made, for example:
Joe "Pegleg" Morgan-Mexican mafia;
John Willis - Triad;
Brandon Queen- Scottish Camorra members (cited in Gomorrah book);
Tyler Bingham - Aryan Brotherhood (half jew);
Michael Thompson - Aryan Brotherhood (indian american ancestry);
Michael Cecchetelli, italian,latin king regional boss;
Angelo Fusco an italian that was a former volunteer in the Belfast Brigade of the Provisional Irish Republican Army (IRA);
Salvatore Mancuso the Colombian AUC leader is half italian.
Any other examples?
Anyone think that is true?
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.baltim ... y,amp.html
Roark, who is white, developed Dead Man Inc. by merging three other gangs within the Maryland prison system in the late 1990s, after he was rejected by the African-American Black Guerrilla Family gang, investigators have said
DMI began as a sort of white contractor for the Black Guerrilla Family, carrying out killings and assaults in exchange for drugs, and grew into its own criminal brotherhood, looking out for its members' safety and addictions, prosecutors said.
yes I think that info is correct. the racially based prison gangs don't have as much of a supremacist / separatist hard line, as they are commonly reported to have. Matter fact, the only ones who historically haven't and wouldn't take anyone of mixed race or a race outside their own, is the BGF, only because of their origin story and their genesis, and what they were birthed out of. Then again, one of their original members was Afro-Latino descent from Nicaragua... so even then there are exceptions (he may be the only one). They were more of a political group versus the other 3 big gangs that were more or less formed as merely racketeering enterprises, just under the auspices and under the front of something larger and ideologically based.
I think the way it works is if you're a "half breed" - you can't straddle the line, you choose which race you want to run under as soon as you go in - and that's where you have to stay. There are stories of fully white people who go in and maybe if they've grown up around mexicans and feel more comfortable there, they'd immediately identify with being a Sureno and ride under that banner - but if that's the case, once they make that decision there is no turning back, and if there's any fighting between races than those types are usually the first targeted by their 'birth race'
As brutal and as harsh as it is, the Cali system seems to be the most, if not the only, organized prison system in the U.S. As ridiculous as some of those racial lines may seem, by all accounts it mitigates trouble.
DMI has an interesting story. They're only really in the Maryland and Virginia system, and maybe to a small degree the federal prisons in the mid-Atlantic region
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Sometimes outsiders was made in oc groups in which they should'nt be made, for example:
Joe "Pegleg" Morgan-Mexican mafia;
John Willis - Triad;
Brandon Queen- Scottish Camorra members (cited in Gomorrah book);
Tyler Bingham - Aryan Brotherhood (half jew);
Michael Thompson - Aryan Brotherhood (indian american ancestry);
Michael Cecchetelli, italian,latin king regional boss;
Angelo Fusco an italian that was a former volunteer in the Belfast Brigade of the Provisional Irish Republican Army (IRA);
Salvatore Mancuso the Colombian AUC leader is half italian.
Any other examples?
Anyone think that is true?
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.baltimoresun.com/news/crime/bs-xpm-2013-01-07-bs-md-roark-dmi-sentencing-20130107-story,amp.html
Roark, who is white, developed Dead Man Inc. by merging three other gangs within the Maryland prison system in the late 1990s, after he was rejected by the African-American Black Guerrilla Family gang, investigators have said
DMI began as a sort of white contractor for the Black Guerrilla Family, carrying out killings and assaults in exchange for drugs, and grew into its own criminal brotherhood, looking out for its members' safety and addictions, prosecutors said.
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yes I think that info is correct. the racially based prison gangs don't have as much of a supremacist / separatist hard line, as they are commonly reported to have. Matter fact, the only ones who historically haven't and wouldn't take anyone of mixed race or a race outside their own, is the BGF, only because of their origin story and their genesis, and what they were birthed out of. Then again, one of their original members was Afro-Latino descent from Nicaragua... so even then there are exceptions (he may be the only one). They were more of a political group versus the other 3 big gangs that were more or less formed as merely racketeering enterprises, just under the auspices and under the front of something larger and ideologically based.
I think the way it works is if you're a "half breed" - you can't straddle the line, you choose which race you want to run under as soon as you go in - and that's where you have to stay. There are stories of fully white people who go in and maybe if they've grown up around mexicans and feel more comfortable there, they'd immediately identify with being a Sureno and ride under that banner - but if that's the case, once they make that decision there is no turning back, and if there's any fighting between races than those types are usually the first targeted by their 'birth race'
As brutal and as harsh as it is, the Cali system seems to be the most, if not the only, organized prison system in the U.S. As ridiculous as some of those racial lines may seem, by all accounts it mitigates trouble.
DMI has an interesting story. They're only really in the Maryland and Virginia system, and maybe to a small degree the federal prisons in the mid-Atlantic region