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by **Ryan98366** » Thu Sep 02, 2021 6:50 pm

Thanks for the post and saving me the fee to buy Gangland Lite. Would be happy to give you a couple bucks for your trouble.

This is not your Father's Gangland....

by **Shellackhead** » Thu Sep 02, 2021 5:11 pm

Vincent is probably a captain or a highly respected made member that reports directly to the administration.

by **Ravens410** » Thu Sep 02, 2021 4:20 pm

I think Vin Esposito is already out? And any confirmation if Andrew is made?

by **Teddy Persico** » Thu Sep 02, 2021 3:41 pm

The feds used the cash and list to argue that he was a high ranking guy, but I think that was them just trying to deny him bail.

by **JohnnyS** » Thu Sep 02, 2021 2:33 pm

^ agreed. I also think he could've had a position on the administration. The feds werent exactly sure what position he held so they just went with high ranking member.

by **eboli** » Thu Sep 02, 2021 2:24 pm

In the original indictment it's stated:

VINCENT ESPOSITO, STEVEN ARENA, FRANK GIOVINCO, FRANK COGNETTA, and VINCENT D’ACUNTO, JR., each a member or associate of the Genovese Organized Crime Family of La Cosa Nostra, with racketeering conspiracy and related offenses arising out of a multi-year investigation.

Then a prosecutor said he was a high-ranking member, but later another official said he was an associate. Some publications ran with the 'high-ranking associate' headline, but the feds didn't really bother to elaborate further. Based on what I've seen from his charges, because he was described as being a ringleader, who was giving orders to the other names involved, it seems he was likely a captain. At the very least, he was direct with the administration, but for whatever reason, the feds weren't completely sure if this was the case or not.

by **Wiseguy** » Thu Sep 02, 2021 1:13 pm

Vincent was indicted as a "high ranking member," which suggests he's made but the feds didn't know his exact rank.

I've never seen anything saying Andrew is made.

by **Southshore88** » Thu Sep 02, 2021 1:03 pm

Thanks for the post

by **SonnyBlackstein** » Thu Sep 02, 2021 10:58 am

Thanks for the post.

by **eboli** » Thu Sep 02, 2021 7:32 am

CornerBoy wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 7:01 am
eboli wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 5:28 am Neither of his sons were indicted as made members in their respective indictments. In his 2001, Andrew was listed as an associate, while Vincent's status in the 2018 indictment was left ambiguous. Multiple sources claim that both of them are made. John Pennisi was the most recent one.

Thanks for posting.
When/Where did pennissi say that?

Esposito definitely is in my opinion AG is not in my opinion.

Vincent is scary as shit. Before moving downtown i lived within a few blocks of where Chins townhouse is where he stuck his Esposito's. A new owner would probably level it, it's in such bad shape. steel bars on the 1st floor windows-facade but the interior could be like Versailles-who knows i guess. Any way, before Tommy Gambino moved to Beverly Hills, he lived literally 50 yards away. vicent is a mean fuck- I once walked by while the mailman was selivering mail and the door was open so obviously I was trying to get a peak but once I got to the red front door i see this baboon staring at me- i averted my gaze pretty quick and this happened 3 times over ten years

At Vincent's townhouse at 67 East 77th Street, the feds found $1 million in cash and the members list. No wonder he might've been stared down random people. Still, Vincent isn't even the most unpleasant person in his immediate family, allegedly.

by **JohnnyS** » Thu Sep 02, 2021 7:27 am

CornerBoy wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 7:01 am
eboli wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 5:28 am Neither of his sons were indicted as made members in their respective indictments. In his 2001, Andrew was listed as an associate, while Vincent's status in the 2018 indictment was left ambiguous. Multiple sources claim that both of them are made. John Pennisi was the most recent one.

Thanks for posting.
When/Where did pennissi say that?

Esposito definitely is in my opinion AG is not in my opinion.

Vincent is scary as shit. Before moving downtown i lived within a few blocks of where Chins townhouse is where he stuck his Esposito's. A new owner would probably level it, it's in such bad shape. steel bars on the 1st floor windows-facade but the interior could be like Versailles-who knows i guess. Any way, before Tommy Gambino moved to Beverly Hills, he lived literally 50 yards away. vicent is a mean fuck- I once walked by while the mailman was selivering mail and the door was open so obviously I was trying to get a peak but once I got to the red front door i see this baboon staring at me- i averted my gaze pretty quick and this happened 3 times over ten years

https://sitdownnews.com/vincent-chin-gigante/

Never wanting his own sons, Andrew and Vincent to become inducted. At the present time, not one but both his sons are made members of the family.

by **JohnnyS** » Thu Sep 02, 2021 7:25 am

Maybe Capeci's info on Andrew Gigante is outdated? As eboli said there was talk that he was made a few years ago then Pennisi said it too.

by **CornerBoy** » Thu Sep 02, 2021 7:01 am

eboli wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 5:28 am Neither of his sons were indicted as made members in their respective indictments. In his 2001, Andrew was listed as an associate, while Vincent's status in the 2018 indictment was left ambiguous. Multiple sources claim that both of them are made. John Pennisi was the most recent one.

Thanks for posting.

When/Where did pennissi say that?

Esposito definitely is in my opinion AG is not in my opinion.

Vincent is scary as shit. Before moving downtown i lived within a few blocks of where Chins townhouse is where he stuck his Esposito's. A new owner would probably level it, it's in such bad shape. steel bars on the 1st floor windows-facade but the interior could be like Versailles-who knows i guess. Any way, before Tommy Gambino moved to Beverly Hills, he lived literally 50 yards away. vicent is a mean fuck- I once walked by while the mailman was selivering mail and the door was open so obviously I was trying to get a peak but once I got to the red front door i see this baboon staring at me- i averted my gaze pretty quick and this happened 3 times over ten years

by **eboli** » Thu Sep 02, 2021 5:28 am

Neither of his sons were indicted as made members in their respective indictments. In his 2001, Andrew was listed as an associate, while Vincent's status in the 2018 indictment was left ambiguous. Multiple sources claim that both of them are made. John Pennisi was the most recent one.

Thanks for posting.

by **Pmac2** » Thu Sep 02, 2021 4:19 am

Pretry sure both of gigantes sons were inducted. Think its been confirmed by a few rats

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