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Re: Most inept made guys?

by Villain » Tue Sep 07, 2021 4:28 am

Pogo The Clown wrote: Mon Sep 06, 2021 9:24 am
Not made at the time but John Veasey and Phil Colletti used a car that they rented under their own name to do the drive by shooting of Merlino and Mike Ciancalgini. Then they abandon the car and torch it but stupid Vessey sticks his hand in to grab some loose change and gets his hand all burned up. :lol: Then they report the car as stolen and Veasey goes home and burns his hand again over his grill where the neighbors could see to explain away his burned hand. Veasey would like steer be made.
:lol: it seems a similar situation occurred during the St Valentines Day massacre.

Tony Capezio, Joseph Lolordo and Raymond Schulte formed the so-called cleanup crew and their job was to get rid of the cars which were used in the plot. First they dynamited one of the cars in west suburban Maywood, the area where Claude Maddox and his family lived at the time.

Than they came back to the garage at 1723 North Wood St., to demolish the second getaway car (the phoney police black Cadillac) with acetylene torch, axes and hacksaws. But Capezio made a mistake that nearly cost his life. While he was cutting through the gas tank with the acetylene torch, a fire broke out and blew him to the ceiling, knocking him unconscious. The reason was that he FORGOT to empty the gas tank :lol: it was like using a lighter to see if theres any fuel left in the gas tank :lol:

Capezio burned his arms and hands quite badly, and so Schulte and Lolordo took him to the North Avenue clinic, but when they arrived there they suddenly ran back out because they realized that someone might’ve heard the blast and would be calling the cops.

This stunt earned Capezio’s nickname “Tough Tony.” Several years later bank robber Alvin Karpis, who was a close friend of Capezio's, confirmed this story.

Re: Most inept made guys?

by Shellackhead » Mon Sep 06, 2021 10:11 am

Pogo The Clown wrote: Mon Sep 06, 2021 9:24 am
Villain wrote: Fri Sep 03, 2021 7:11 am Jerry Scalise and Arthur Rachel used their real names when they rented the getaway car in London England before stealing the famous Marlborough Diamond.....
We can also include the entire Colombo leadership in the early 1980s. The Feds bugged the restaurant where they held their meetings. The wiseguys find the bug but keep meeting in the same restaurant so the Feds just go back in and bug it again and get them all on tape. :lol:


Pogo
That was at Casa Storta, Gerry Lang’s place, very stupid tbh 🤣

Re: Most inept made guys?

by Pogo The Clown » Mon Sep 06, 2021 9:24 am

Villain wrote: Fri Sep 03, 2021 7:11 am Jerry Scalise and Arthur Rachel used their real names when they rented the getaway car in London England before stealing the famous Marlborough Diamond.....

Not made at the time but John Veasey and Phil Colletti used a car that they rented under their own name to do the drive by shooting of Merlino and Mike Ciancalgini. Then they abandon the car and torch it but stupid Vessey sticks his hand in to grab some loose change and gets his hand all burned up. :lol: Then they report the car as stolen and Veasey goes home and burns his hand again over his grill where the neighbors could see to explain away his burned hand. Veasey would like steer be made.


We can also include the entire Colombo leadership in the early 1980s. The Feds bugged the restaurant where they held their meetings. The wiseguys find the bug but keep meeting in the same restaurant so the Feds just go back in and bug it again and get them all on tape. :lol:


Pogo

Re: Most inept made guys?

by CabriniGreen » Sat Sep 04, 2021 9:48 pm

Quack quack?

Re: Most inept made guys?

by Newyorkempire » Sat Sep 04, 2021 6:15 pm

Buffalo '76. The 4 implicated guys who tried to kill Faust Novino but he ended up escaping from all of them. No one could shoot straight.

Re: Most inept made guys?

by Villain » Sat Sep 04, 2021 5:36 am

PolackTony wrote: Fri Sep 03, 2021 2:44 pm
Villain wrote: Fri Sep 03, 2021 7:11 am Jerry Scalise and Arthur Rachel used their real names when they rented the getaway car in London England before stealing the famous Marlborough Diamond.....
Joe Siciliano really fucked up with that horsemeat shit, though I’m not sure how much of the shitstorm was really due to his own ineptitude.
I dont think he was the only guy guilty for the screw up.

Im not sure if Siciliano was ever made but this guy controlled his own crew which included Meyer Ditlove, Russell Minnea, Anthony Rossi, Rudy Angelicchio, Robert Klotz, Frank Meara, Virgil McGanty and Joel Miller. Almost all of these guys were involved in the meat racket.

Now, it is also possible that Siciliano either answered to Paul Labriola or they were business partners. During that period Labriola already transferred or belonged to the EP crew and was possibly direct with Accardo which might mean that the line was Accardo-Labriola-Siciliano.

So, story goes that one of Sicilianos guys Joel Miller made some mistake and he had to go. I never found out what was Millers mistake, but instead all I know is that his dead body was pulled out from the Illinois River. Maybe Miller pushed the wrong people in the meat business or maybe went too far with his intimidating methods, and so the Outfit had to make an example out of him...just a guess.

All I know is that the biggest problem was when the goverment realized that Siciliano was in fact a mere tool for Accardo and Labriola, and Accardos problem was the mentioning of both Ricca and Campagna during the investigations. Both Ricca and Campagna were still under the feds radar at the time because of their early releases from the late 40s.

Years later or during the late 50s, according to one wiretapped convo, two unknown Outfit guys still trash talked Accardo for bringing Siciliano into the scheme and fuckin up the whole thing.

Re: Most inept made guys?

by jmack » Sat Sep 04, 2021 5:35 am

Ivan wrote: Sun Jul 25, 2021 9:01 pm
joeycigars wrote: Sun Jul 25, 2021 8:55 pm
Ivan wrote: Sun Jul 25, 2021 8:29 pm If we're going back 30 years like the OP says then I nominate pretty much anyone made by Stanfa who wasn't part of the Merlino crew. Veasey, Martines, Pagano, his gaggle of fucktarded zips.

I'm declaring myself the winner of this thread because I doubt if anyone will be able to name a more ridiculous made guy than the half-French smackhead dingaling that is John-John Veasey.
As fucked up as Veasey was , He killed Michael Ciancaglini and put a cap in Merlinos ass, Might have won the war if Merlino died that day, As Maxwell Smart would say ...Missed by this much
Yeah he was good at killing people, I'll give him that. Killed Baldino, too. That doesn't change the fact that he was a freakish retard who had no business being anywhere near Cosa Nostra. Didn't Martines randomly recruit him on a construction site? :lol:
The Veasey family is in South Jersey now. I actually took his niece to homecoming in 2000 or so. I’ve heard some funny stories about John.

Re: Most inept made guys?

by PolackTony » Fri Sep 03, 2021 2:44 pm

Villain wrote: Fri Sep 03, 2021 7:11 am Jerry Scalise and Arthur Rachel used their real names when they rented the getaway car in London England before stealing the famous Marlborough Diamond.....
Joe Siciliano really fucked up with that horsemeat shit, though I’m not sure how much of the shitstorm was really due to his own ineptitude.

Re: Most inept made guys?

by Extortion » Fri Sep 03, 2021 12:15 pm

bronx wrote: Fri Sep 03, 2021 12:08 pm sonny put his nose in the middle of nasso and seagal beef about movie deals they had, all contract legal papers that lawyers were involved in,pete did not send sonny
Oh, okay. Do you know this for a fact?

I’d still like to know what things people thought peter gotto did as don that was stupid. I can’t believe he became the boss…Obviously he got it through his brothers but what about captain votes after Gotti dies?

Re: Most inept made guys?

by bronx » Fri Sep 03, 2021 12:08 pm

sonny put his nose in the middle of nasso and seagal beef about movie deals they had, all contract legal papers that lawyers were involved in,pete did not send sonny

Re: Most inept made guys?

by Extortion » Fri Sep 03, 2021 10:43 am

bronx wrote: Fri Sep 03, 2021 2:36 am jr gotti and his uncle pete
Other than what we know from Gravano saying that he was not a smart guy what do we know specifically that he did that was considered an inept move(s) Aside from giving the OK to extort Steven Seagal after he refused the first one or two times after not working with them the Gambino’s for a decade or so I believe

For whatever reason Peter sent Sonny Ciccone to the extortion meeting that ended up being taped by the FBI. Sunny should not be at extortion meetings because he is a captain

Re: Most inept made guys?

by Villain » Fri Sep 03, 2021 7:11 am

Jerry Scalise and Arthur Rachel used their real names when they rented the getaway car in London England before stealing the famous Marlborough Diamond.....

Re: Most inept made guys?

by bronx » Fri Sep 03, 2021 2:36 am

jr gotti and his uncle pete

Re: Most inept made guys?

by SonnyBlackstein » Thu Sep 02, 2021 10:17 pm

Sebastian Sacacino.

Busted for supplying false information on immigration documents and therefor rats on his brother for murder.



I win.

Re: Most inept made guys?

by davidf1989 » Thu Sep 02, 2021 9:55 pm

Anthony st. Laurent from the Providence LCN has to be another choice for an inept made guy as he offered contracts to kill Deluca to an undercover cop and an informant for the FBI.

https://www.southcoasttoday.com/article ... /909290316
https://www.bostonherald.com/2011/01/31 ... -on-rival/

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