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Re: Rats holding back on murders?

by Tonyd621 » Sat Jul 24, 2021 7:03 pm

It's a joke ppl relax

Re: Rats holding back on murders?

by Tonyd621 » Sat Jul 24, 2021 7:03 pm

The Cat wrote: Sat Jul 24, 2021 5:14 pm Sure hope it is … that shit is disgraceful .
I mean how high did she bounce? I mean 4 bounces? I bet I can do it in 3-2.5 tops

Re: Rats holding back on murders?

by The Cat » Sat Jul 24, 2021 5:14 pm

Sure hope it is … that shit is disgraceful .

Re: Rats holding back on murders?

by Tonyd621 » Sat Jul 24, 2021 10:15 am

The Cat wrote: Sat Jul 24, 2021 6:31 am Did Sammy just not say on his YouTube channel that he killed his grandmother … what the hell did FBI think when he worked out his agreement.
I think it was a joke

Re: Rats holding back on murders?

by OcSleeper » Sat Jul 24, 2021 7:57 am

"It's okay, she felt no pain, by the fourth bounce she felt no pain bahahah"

Re: Rats holding back on murders?

by The Cat » Sat Jul 24, 2021 6:31 am

Did Sammy just not say on his YouTube channel that he killed his grandmother … what the hell did FBI think when he worked out his agreement.

Re: Rats holding back on murders?

by bronx » Fri Jul 23, 2021 7:04 pm

divorce italian style

Re: Rats holding back on murders?

by cobra » Fri Jul 23, 2021 5:55 pm

-tommaso buscetta
-suspected to kill his second wife vera girotti
-pippo calò ask him in maxi trial "what happen to your second wife"

Re: Rats holding back on murders?

by davidf1989 » Thu Jul 15, 2021 5:33 am

I think that he only pleaded guilty to 4 murders from the early sixties which were the Bennett brothers and Richard Grasso according to this article.
https://www.capecodtimes.com/article/19 ... /312099965.

He probably committed more murders during this time and later and it is crazy that the federal government gave him and Martorano such sweetheart deals in exchange for testimony against John Connolly.

Re: Rats holding back on murders?

by Hired_Goonz » Thu Jul 15, 2021 5:18 am

mike68 wrote: Wed Jul 14, 2021 8:13 pm Salemme ordered a bunch of hits in the 90s after Vinny Ferrara went away. He is believed to have been there for some of them. But he never confessed when he was testifying against Bulger and Flemmi. There are a lot that he didn't own up to or incriminate people that he could have.
What murders did Salemme cop to anyway? Just the ones he committed back in the gang wars of the 60s? If so, that's laughable. I find it insane how he and Martorano got such sweetheart deals.

Re: Rats holding back on murders?

by davidf1989 » Thu Jul 15, 2021 5:00 am

mike68 wrote: Wed Jul 14, 2021 8:13 pm Salemme ordered a bunch of hits in the 90s after Vinny Ferrara went away. He is believed to have been there for some of them. But he never confessed when he was testifying against Bulger and Flemmi. There are a lot that he didn't own up to or incriminate people that he could have.

Wasn't Mark Rossetti one of the hitmen that was used by Salemme to carry out the hits during the 1990's?

https://gangsterreport.com/gr-sources-c ... s-role-in/

Re: Rats holding back on murders?

by mike68 » Wed Jul 14, 2021 8:13 pm

Salemme ordered a bunch of hits in the 90s after Vinny Ferrara went away. He is believed to have been there for some of them. But he never confessed when he was testifying against Bulger and Flemmi. There are a lot that he didn't own up to or incriminate people that he could have.

Re: Rats holding back on murders?

by davidf1989 » Wed Jul 14, 2021 6:54 pm

How about John Bologna from the Genovese family in Springfield? As he was repeatedly caught in lies in matters such as the Bruno hit.

https://www.masslive.com/news/2013/05/n ... t_joh.html

I thought that Salemme first blamed Bianco for the murder and was prosecuted for perjury and then blamed Flemmi. This probably made him look very guilty.

https://gangsterreport.com/cadillac-fra ... nd-flemmi/

Re: Rats holding back on murders?

by richard_belding » Wed Jul 14, 2021 3:25 pm

Gravano testified that when he was initially debriefed by federal agents in 1991 regarding the Francesco Oliveri murder, he had forgotten Orazio Stantini's involvement and made no mention of him. There's no mention of him in the initial FBI file on this killing.

At some point in 1992, he received a call from FBI Agent who was investigating the murder, who asked if Stantini had been involved. Gravano immediately remembered that Stantini had taken part in both the planning and the execution of the murder. Thereafter Gravano called U.S. attorney John Gleeson and informed him that Stantini was involved

Re: Rats holding back on murders?

by chin_gigante » Wed Jul 14, 2021 9:43 am

Yeah, the extra 10 was to run consecutive to the 20 (but the extra 10 was a series of concurrent 10 year sentences for each additional murder). After looking into it more in depth, the way Anastasia portrays it in The Last Gangster is very oversimplified and potentially misleading, which is confusing because he covered it all at the time.

I don't know whether the rest of the Newark crew knew about the sexual assault. It was reported on at the time in the papers and he got out in 1985. Caprio was a friend of Casale's father so I'm assuming he must have known through the grapevine. It was also widely written about again when he flipped, so I assume everyone must have known about it. It was a really savage attack as well, and it messed up the victim's whole life (she was partially paralysed and ended up drug and alcohol dependent and in a series of abusive relationships). Then Natale had the gall to call Casale a "great guy" in his book

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