THE BLACK HAND FORUM

CornerBoy wrote: ↑Sun Jul 14, 2024 4:59 am

Wiseguy wrote: ↑Wed Apr 24, 2024 11:15 am

Newyorkempire wrote: ↑Wed Apr 24, 2024 11:12 am Im so afraid. Who said I believe them? Are you ok? Spiraling real good. So you believe others not just indictments??? What a legend.

It's common knowledge that Jackie DiNorscio wasn't made. The only one who apparently isn't aware of this is you. You were looking to troll, because Rooster is off his meds again, and you overstepped yet again. Face it, almost every time you post, you demonstrate how much you don't know about the mob. You need to stay at the little kid's table where you belong.

Wiseguy- have you ever been to ny and spent any time in the company of any of these guys? You discount primary sources (who could be lying but why?)and subscribe only to conteents if articles, FBI reports and god knows what else. LE reports are often inaccurate or deliberate misinformation. Reading books from lying rats are iffy. There is no way to be certain of anything in bs world of mafia. state your opinion based on the sources avail to you but don't discredit a neighborhood guy simply bc some LE report says so. i come to Deer Valley twice a year and have watched docs on mormons in Utah, spoken to several, read some books etc. Does that qualify me to make absolute statements about the Mormon community in areas like Sandy etc? Of course not. the bullsshit that the govt and informers put out there sshoudl be viewed w healthy degree of skepticism. dont assail someone who says they know joey the blade or carmine the creep. could be bullshsit but oftentimes not.

PolackTony wrote: ↑Sun Jul 14, 2024 9:40 am

Ivan wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2024 6:34 am Nobody actually called Jackie Cerone "The Lackey," right? That was just some dumb media thing, yes? It doesn't fit his character at all so I can't imagine anyone who actually knew him calling him that. (Unless it was some kind of ironic joke, like "Jack White.")

No. Like some of those other corny names (“Big Tuna”, “Joey Doves”), this was a media/LE creation. From everything I’ve seen people just called him “Jack” or “Jackie”.

gohnjotti wrote: ↑Thu Jun 27, 2024 7:10 pm Does anybody know if Philip Bonadonna, of the Genovese family, is a relation to the Bonadonna brothers of Bensonhurst, the Sicilian family who owned the Roll-a-Rama and the Avenue I Flea Market? Or if the Bonadonnas of Bensonhurst had any mob ties?

Ivan wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2024 6:34 am Nobody actually called Jackie Cerone "The Lackey," right? That was just some dumb media thing, yes? It doesn't fit his character at all so I can't imagine anyone who actually knew him calling him that. (Unless it was some kind of ironic joke, like "Jack White.")

CornerBoy wrote: ↑Sun Jul 14, 2024 4:34 am whose crew was simone esposito in?

Wiseguy wrote: ↑Wed Apr 24, 2024 11:15 am

Newyorkempire wrote: ↑Wed Apr 24, 2024 11:12 am Im so afraid. Who said I believe them? Are you ok? Spiraling real good. So you believe others not just indictments??? What a legend.

It's common knowledge that Jackie DiNorscio wasn't made. The only one who apparently isn't aware of this is you. You were looking to troll, because Rooster is off his meds again, and you overstepped yet again. Face it, almost every time you post, you demonstrate how much you don't know about the mob. You need to stay at the little kid's table where you belong.

johnny_scootch wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2024 1:41 pm There are a lot of guys who were associates of one family but switched to another and got made, these are a few I can think of off the top of my head.
Vic Amuso (Colombo-Lucchese), Simone Esposito (DeCavalcante-Bonanno), John Cerrella (Genovese-Lucchese), Frank DiPietro (Lucchese-Genovese), Al Embarrato (Genovese-Bonanno), Angelo Lapi (Bonanno-Genovese)

You can do a search and find the thread where we spoke of guys who were made by one family and got transferred to another.

OmarSantista wrote: ↑Sat Jul 06, 2024 6:43 am Benny Gallo of Santa Ninfa was unrelated to the Gallo bros. of the Profaci Borgata, right?

gohnjotti wrote: ↑Wed Jun 26, 2024 2:10 pm

gohnjotti wrote: ↑Sat Jun 08, 2024 9:28 am

OmarSantista wrote: ↑Fri Jun 07, 2024 7:14 pm Without conspiracy or speculation are there any definitive cases where a member got killed for not coming in.

Frank Abbatemarco. While it's not without some speculation, I believe the general consensus is that Joseph Peraino Sr. and Jr. were also targeted for murder for the same reason.

Apologies, I misunderstood this question to mean members getting killed for withholding money/refusing to kick up, as per your previous post. Money, and refusal to kick it up or suspicions of withholding it, is why I understand Abbatemarco and the Perainos were targeted for murder.

B. wrote: ↑Wed Jun 26, 2024 2:15 pm With not "kicking up" or stealing, Bill Bonanno said there was a rule that a member can't be killed for that. He said that was why Salvatore Mangiaracina was instead shelved and forced to leave the US. Mangiaracina was ultimately killed for returning to NYC without permission but not for stealing.

I'm sure guys have been killed for financial infractions but the Family would need to find or invent another justification and typically the kind of guy who steals from the Family is probably fucking up in other ways, i.e. DiBono or Mangiaracina.

People have a perception that tons of murders are for financial infractions but they aren't, at least not directly.

B. wrote: ↑Thu Jul 04, 2024 2:07 pm

blackhander wrote: ↑Thu Jul 04, 2024 11:51 am Pellegrino Colletti - 528 2ND AVE
Vito Perrone - 661 1ST AVE

These were the two bondsmen for Antonio 'Impolluzzo''s first offence, before he killed Tom Lo Monte.

Just wondering if they ring any bells for anyone?


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Impelluso was from Castrofilippo in Agrigento according to the May 2014 Informer and Colletti is a heavily Agrigentino name so he may have been a paesan or from the province at least. Never heard of him though.

Interesting that both the LoMonte brothers were killed by Agrigentini, but it makes sense given they were at war with D'Aquila whose Family included the majority of NYC Agrigentini.