by newera_212 » Mon Jun 28, 2021 8:23 am
moneyman wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 6:12 am
newera_212 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 27, 2021 9:14 pm
Pennisi and Tom dropped an episode tonight where John talks about how he met the kid once at a wake for the kid’s uncle, and the kid’s Dad circled back around shortly after to tell John in person that his son went bad and was wearing a wire. As usual, John was pretty coy when Tom asked what he thought about the Pasqua episode, because they both watched it. John said they were Staten Island guys but were under Crea Jr. in the Bronx crew. I can’t stress enough how shitty the commute for some of these guys must be.
Outside of the Alite’esque gangster tales, one thing this Pasqua kid said that stuck out was that being a Genovese associate was ‘as good as being a made guy’ and that the Genovese treat their guys really good. Considering the scope of the shit the Genovese are involved with, they have to have about a thousand associates (by law enforcement definition; somebody that contributes to and benefits from their relationship with a made guy) - but I feel like on one of the podcasts, Pennisi said the exact opposite about the Genovese? I recall him saying that in a lot of cases they won’t even send a made guy to go to bat for their associates on one of the episodes...anyone remember this?
also this Figs that the Pasqua kid namedropped as Underboss...any info on him? Besides him doing Karate and having a Dad that was involved, there doesnt seem to really be any info on him
I remember Pennisi saying that about Genovese sit downs. My guess would be that because being a Genovese associate carries so much weight, that perhaps they don’t even need a made guy to support them at sit downs.
What I found odd is that Pasquale SR was at that wake with his son, even though he knew he was wired up. Unless I misunderstood what Pennisi was saying and JR wasn’t at the wake.
I took it as both Father and Son were at the wake, but the Father didn't know the kid was wired up at the time, and circled back around in person to let John know once he found out?
Or maybe he knew the kid was wired up then and just knew guys wouldn't really be talking to him about anything? Couldn't prevent the kid from going to his own Uncle's wake maybe?
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Pennisi and Tom dropped an episode tonight where John talks about how he met the kid once at a wake for the kid’s uncle, and the kid’s Dad circled back around shortly after to tell John in person that his son went bad and was wearing a wire. As usual, John was pretty coy when Tom asked what he thought about the Pasqua episode, because they both watched it. John said they were Staten Island guys but were under Crea Jr. in the Bronx crew. I can’t stress enough how shitty the commute for some of these guys must be.
Outside of the Alite’esque gangster tales, one thing this Pasqua kid said that stuck out was that being a Genovese associate was ‘as good as being a made guy’ and that the Genovese treat their guys really good. Considering the scope of the shit the Genovese are involved with, they have to have about a thousand associates (by law enforcement definition; somebody that contributes to and benefits from their relationship with a made guy) - but I feel like on one of the podcasts, Pennisi said the exact opposite about the Genovese? I recall him saying that in a lot of cases they won’t even send a made guy to go to bat for their associates on one of the episodes...anyone remember this?
also this Figs that the Pasqua kid namedropped as Underboss...any info on him? Besides him doing Karate and having a Dad that was involved, there doesnt seem to really be any info on him
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I remember Pennisi saying that about Genovese sit downs. My guess would be that because being a Genovese associate carries so much weight, that perhaps they don’t even need a made guy to support them at sit downs.
What I found odd is that Pasquale SR was at that wake with his son, even though he knew he was wired up. Unless I misunderstood what Pennisi was saying and JR wasn’t at the wake.
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I took it as both Father and Son were at the wake, but the Father didn't know the kid was wired up at the time, and circled back around in person to let John know once he found out?
Or maybe he knew the kid was wired up then and just knew guys wouldn't really be talking to him about anything? Couldn't prevent the kid from going to his own Uncle's wake maybe?