THE BLACK HAND FORUM

At this point I don't think it's happening. They more or less got away with those murders - and that's it. It may sound stupid ,but that's what I think about it anyway.

At this point, what's the benefit in devoting more time, money, energy, and resources to hit the Philly guys again? For what? I know they blow things up for headlines (i.e. look how hard they went after some of the lower tier guys on the Amato Staten Island case) - but in Philly, just in the past few years, they got that weird looking guy with the ears from Jersey jammed up with the drugs, and they just got the big indictment which exposed the administration and threw a wrench into the whole family. If they had any real solid leads on those murders, it would have happened already. The biggest shot they had at any of those old murders was when they had Nicodemo in 2012-2013 - and the result of that is literally just one guy off the street doing time for one murder.

if its lesss than 10-12, my apologies

To be honest, I could never stand up for a ten year sentence even at Fort Dix Camp which isnt that bad but 1. you cannot make any money in there 2. cannot take a normal shower, hang around a very low class of ppl and can't see your family. THATS WHY I havent't CUT ANY CORNERS in well over a decade. and if we're talking medium sec than I'd kill myself LOL. my point is that if one can't stand up, stay away from that shit as those philly guys clear maybe150- 300K a year- some has to be kickedup, lawyers etc then 4 yr bid where NOTHING is coming in. SORRY FOR THE RANT

I’ve been saying this forever.. and the feds know that all they need is 1 person to flip who has knowledge of any of the hits from 90s,2000s-present day and it’s game over for the majority of the family... but I don’t see who would flip.. that’s one thing I’ll give Philly they are real tight and willing to stand up , but you never know... a lot of people in the past have flipped that people would have never expected... but it’s going to have to be a solid murder case to see what happens.. and the feds have been working overtime on that forever.. and so far all they got was persiano and he didn’t jam Stevie and dom up as bad as I originally thought..

Is it really 10-12 core guys? I think the core guys is a smaller number.

Nobody In the core group will flip. But there’s people that know about some Murders who’s aren’t technically in the core group. So who knows

No one in that group will flip

If the Feds hypothetically s came down with a huge murder RICO conspiracy in Philly say from a murder in 2001.

All the 10-12 core guys in PHL are included, all looking at LIFE.

WHO FLIPS IN THIS HYPOTHETICAL SITUATION?