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Re: General Chicago Outfit Info Dumping Ground

by funkster » Thu Apr 24, 2025 8:19 am

I cannot believe you essentially had someone on GBB write out a response for you.

Re: General Chicago Outfit Info Dumping Ground

by Snakes » Thu Apr 24, 2025 7:09 am

NorthBuffalo wrote: Thu Apr 24, 2025 6:35 am
Snakes wrote: Thu Apr 24, 2025 5:50 am
Patrickgold wrote: Thu Apr 24, 2025 5:21 am
Aunt+Baby wrote: Thu Apr 24, 2025 2:45 am
RushStreet wrote: Wed Apr 23, 2025 9:06 pm Petrocelli got his throat slit ear to ear by LaPietra for being a dumb fuck. Sarno is lucky he wasnt with Bill that day.
And…? Guys like Petrocelli getting killed is one of the reasons the Outfit fell off a cliff. He was one of the biggest earners & most feared guys in the family, and his crew was one of the most ruthless. He was boss material, and if he could get killed, then anyone could. It deterred young guys from wanting to get involved in the family. No one liked LaPietra, he was one of the most miserable, disliked bosses in the Outfit

Anyways, what does Petrocelli getting killed have to do with anything that’s being discussed here?
Petrocelli was stealing money, had a standup guy and good earner killed Tony Borsellino out of jealousy and was possibly a snitch. Hardly boss material. That being said, was definitely an earner and was definitely a killer.
Yeah, I wouldn't know if Butch was a good candidate for boss. Part of why he was killed was because he got drunk at a party and told everyone he was gonna be the boss. He would have been another Casso if he became boss.
You think Petrocelli would have been hit if Turk Torello didn't pass? I think the timing that he's hit a year after Turk dies shows you how ruthless that Buccieri crew had become. Petrocelli was Torello's guy - which was heavily focused on in Family Secrets. I think LaPietra taking over after Torello passes and the crew changes hands is what sealed Butchie's death warrant - LaPietra and likely Ferriola had no need for Torello loyalists who thought they were big shots. They put all of their own guys in place in Cicero and Chinatown.
I'm sure Butch holding out on what was supposed to go to Aleman's family in prison didn't really endear him to Ferriola.

Re: General Chicago Outfit Info Dumping Ground

by NorthBuffalo » Thu Apr 24, 2025 6:35 am

Snakes wrote: Thu Apr 24, 2025 5:50 am
Patrickgold wrote: Thu Apr 24, 2025 5:21 am
Aunt+Baby wrote: Thu Apr 24, 2025 2:45 am
RushStreet wrote: Wed Apr 23, 2025 9:06 pm Petrocelli got his throat slit ear to ear by LaPietra for being a dumb fuck. Sarno is lucky he wasnt with Bill that day.
And…? Guys like Petrocelli getting killed is one of the reasons the Outfit fell off a cliff. He was one of the biggest earners & most feared guys in the family, and his crew was one of the most ruthless. He was boss material, and if he could get killed, then anyone could. It deterred young guys from wanting to get involved in the family. No one liked LaPietra, he was one of the most miserable, disliked bosses in the Outfit

Anyways, what does Petrocelli getting killed have to do with anything that’s being discussed here?
Petrocelli was stealing money, had a standup guy and good earner killed Tony Borsellino out of jealousy and was possibly a snitch. Hardly boss material. That being said, was definitely an earner and was definitely a killer.
Yeah, I wouldn't know if Butch was a good candidate for boss. Part of why he was killed was because he got drunk at a party and told everyone he was gonna be the boss. He would have been another Casso if he became boss.
You think Petrocelli would have been hit if Turk Torello didn't pass? I think the timing that he's hit a year after Turk dies shows you how ruthless that Buccieri crew had become. Petrocelli was Torello's guy - which was heavily focused on in Family Secrets. I think LaPietra taking over after Torello passes and the crew changes hands is what sealed Butchie's death warrant - LaPietra and likely Ferriola had no need for Torello loyalists who thought they were big shots. They put all of their own guys in place in Cicero and Chinatown.

Re: General Chicago Outfit Info Dumping Ground

by Snakes » Thu Apr 24, 2025 5:50 am

Patrickgold wrote: Thu Apr 24, 2025 5:21 am
Aunt+Baby wrote: Thu Apr 24, 2025 2:45 am
RushStreet wrote: Wed Apr 23, 2025 9:06 pm Petrocelli got his throat slit ear to ear by LaPietra for being a dumb fuck. Sarno is lucky he wasnt with Bill that day.
And…? Guys like Petrocelli getting killed is one of the reasons the Outfit fell off a cliff. He was one of the biggest earners & most feared guys in the family, and his crew was one of the most ruthless. He was boss material, and if he could get killed, then anyone could. It deterred young guys from wanting to get involved in the family. No one liked LaPietra, he was one of the most miserable, disliked bosses in the Outfit

Anyways, what does Petrocelli getting killed have to do with anything that’s being discussed here?
Petrocelli was stealing money, had a standup guy and good earner killed Tony Borsellino out of jealousy and was possibly a snitch. Hardly boss material. That being said, was definitely an earner and was definitely a killer.
Yeah, I wouldn't know if Butch was a good candidate for boss. Part of why he was killed was because he got drunk at a party and told everyone he was gonna be the boss. He would have been another Casso if he became boss.

Re: General Chicago Outfit Info Dumping Ground

by Patrickgold » Thu Apr 24, 2025 5:21 am

Aunt+Baby wrote: Thu Apr 24, 2025 2:45 am
RushStreet wrote: Wed Apr 23, 2025 9:06 pm Petrocelli got his throat slit ear to ear by LaPietra for being a dumb fuck. Sarno is lucky he wasnt with Bill that day.
And…? Guys like Petrocelli getting killed is one of the reasons the Outfit fell off a cliff. He was one of the biggest earners & most feared guys in the family, and his crew was one of the most ruthless. He was boss material, and if he could get killed, then anyone could. It deterred young guys from wanting to get involved in the family. No one liked LaPietra, he was one of the most miserable, disliked bosses in the Outfit

Anyways, what does Petrocelli getting killed have to do with anything that’s being discussed here?
Petrocelli was stealing money, had a standup guy and good earner killed Tony Borsellino out of jealousy and was possibly a snitch. Hardly boss material. That being said, was definitely an earner and was definitely a killer.

Re: General Chicago Outfit Info Dumping Ground

by RushStreet » Thu Apr 24, 2025 4:34 am

Well since Sarno was Bills right hand man, at that point in his career more than likely would have been whacked as well.

Re: General Chicago Outfit Info Dumping Ground

by Aunt+Baby » Thu Apr 24, 2025 2:45 am

RushStreet wrote: Wed Apr 23, 2025 9:06 pm Petrocelli got his throat slit ear to ear by LaPietra for being a dumb fuck. Sarno is lucky he wasnt with Bill that day.
And…? Guys like Petrocelli getting killed is one of the reasons the Outfit fell off a cliff. He was one of the biggest earners & most feared guys in the family, and his crew was one of the most ruthless. He was boss material, and if he could get killed, then anyone could. It deterred young guys from wanting to get involved in the family. No one liked LaPietra, he was one of the most miserable, disliked bosses in the Outfit

Anyways, what does Petrocelli getting killed have to do with anything that’s being discussed here?

Re: General Chicago Outfit Info Dumping Ground

by RushStreet » Wed Apr 23, 2025 9:08 pm

LaPietra is a man that you didn't fuck with.

Re: General Chicago Outfit Info Dumping Ground

by RushStreet » Wed Apr 23, 2025 9:06 pm

Petrocelli got his throat slit ear to ear by LaPietra for being a dumb fuck. Sarno is lucky he wasnt with Bill that day.

Re: General Chicago Outfit Info Dumping Ground

by Aunt+Baby » Wed Apr 23, 2025 8:20 pm

Snakes wrote: Wed Apr 23, 2025 7:55 pm
Aunt+Baby wrote: Wed Apr 23, 2025 7:42 pm
Patrickgold wrote: Wed Apr 23, 2025 4:27 pm Sarno was obviously appointed to take the reins of the Outfit by the admin. This probably had to do with his age and his eagerness to make money. He was probably made in the late 90s after getting out of prison. A lot of people were surprised that he was in the boss position bc of his age. But no matter what is said about his old mugshots and how he looked like a biker, all the people still around only have good things to say about him and hope that he gets released bc of him being a standup guy.
The Petrocelli crew were bringing him on robberies & beatings when he was in his early 20s. He was clearly a prodigy from a very early age.
As part of his plea agreement in the 1990 bust, he admitted to being associated with the Cicero crew for practically his entire life.
I think he used to call himself Mike Bryant or something. Cooley used to talk about a big fat menacing giant guy named Mike Bryant that was present when he would meet with the Petrocelli Crew.

Can his 1990 trial be researched further or are there transcripts?

Re: General Chicago Outfit Info Dumping Ground

by Snakes » Wed Apr 23, 2025 7:55 pm

Aunt+Baby wrote: Wed Apr 23, 2025 7:42 pm
Patrickgold wrote: Wed Apr 23, 2025 4:27 pm Sarno was obviously appointed to take the reins of the Outfit by the admin. This probably had to do with his age and his eagerness to make money. He was probably made in the late 90s after getting out of prison. A lot of people were surprised that he was in the boss position bc of his age. But no matter what is said about his old mugshots and how he looked like a biker, all the people still around only have good things to say about him and hope that he gets released bc of him being a standup guy.
The Petrocelli crew were bringing him on robberies & beatings when he was in his early 20s. He was clearly a prodigy from a very early age.
As part of his plea agreement in the 1990 bust, he admitted to being associated with the Cicero crew for practically his entire life.

Re: General Chicago Outfit Info Dumping Ground

by Aunt+Baby » Wed Apr 23, 2025 7:42 pm

Patrickgold wrote: Wed Apr 23, 2025 4:27 pm Sarno was obviously appointed to take the reins of the Outfit by the admin. This probably had to do with his age and his eagerness to make money. He was probably made in the late 90s after getting out of prison. A lot of people were surprised that he was in the boss position bc of his age. But no matter what is said about his old mugshots and how he looked like a biker, all the people still around only have good things to say about him and hope that he gets released bc of him being a standup guy.
The Petrocelli crew were bringing him on robberies & beatings when he was in his early 20s. He was clearly a prodigy from a very early age.

Re: General Chicago Outfit Info Dumping Ground

by Aunt+Baby » Wed Apr 23, 2025 7:41 pm

Ivan wrote: Wed Apr 23, 2025 7:23 pm really don't see why Fat Fuck having a bad hair day in one mugshot is such a big deal lol Christ
This kid is obviously from Chicago given his username, and clearly has some sort of personal heat with the Sarno clan. You won’t find many with bad stuff to say about Sarno, save for the people who he fucked over/extorted/stepped on

Re: General Chicago Outfit Info Dumping Ground

by Aunt+Baby » Wed Apr 23, 2025 7:40 pm

Wiseguy wrote: Wed Apr 23, 2025 1:00 pm
Snakes wrote: Wed Apr 23, 2025 11:47 am-I believe I have seen in court records where Sarno was involved with certain businesses along with Vena, but I cannot find them at this moment.
A glass manufacturing company in Vegas, if I remember correctly.
It was a fibre glass manufacturing plant in Nevada, if I’m not mistaken.

Re: General Chicago Outfit Info Dumping Ground

by Ivan » Wed Apr 23, 2025 7:23 pm

really don't see why Fat Fuck having a bad hair day in one mugshot is such a big deal lol Christ

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