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Re: Who had more power when they were alive?

by Nick Prango » Sat Feb 20, 2021 10:24 am

Personally i think Carlo Gambino

Re: Who had more power when they were alive?

by Wiseguy » Wed Feb 17, 2021 6:33 pm

eboli wrote: Wed Feb 17, 2021 1:57 pm
TommyNoto wrote: Wed Feb 17, 2021 1:27 pm
eboli wrote: Wed Feb 17, 2021 9:13 am Yeah, not really close. LCN's presence, influence and money flow in Gambino's era were considerably larger.
I hear you but even during the 80s ? when they had the Concrete , Window and Gas rackets in full swing.

The heat was on in the 80s no doubt but I’m not sure the 70s mob made more $ .

I think they might of peaked in the mid 80s when they had all those cartel construction industries on lock down which ended up in them all getting locked up .
I consider the period from the late 30s until the late 70s as the 'golden age'. We know the biggest scams from the 80s because of the suffocating law enforcement pressure and many informants, but that's hardly an indicator they did better than before. Also, by the 80s general attrition was in full force, LCN shrank nationwide, more competition, reduced opportunities, lost the casinos, etc. It's very subjective because we'll never really know. I think the mob peaked in the 50s and it was all downhill from there on.
Agreed. 1930s through 1970s was their 50 year window. Peaked in the 1950s on a national level.

Re: Who had more power when they were alive?

by TommyNoto » Wed Feb 17, 2021 3:02 pm

eboli wrote: Wed Feb 17, 2021 1:57 pm
TommyNoto wrote: Wed Feb 17, 2021 1:27 pm
eboli wrote: Wed Feb 17, 2021 9:13 am Yeah, not really close. LCN's presence, influence and money flow in Gambino's era were considerably larger.
I hear you but even during the 80s ? when they had the Concrete , Window and Gas rackets in full swing.

The heat was on in the 80s no doubt but I’m not sure the 70s mob made more $ .

I think they might of peaked in the mid 80s when they had all those cartel construction industries on lock down which ended up in them all getting locked up .
I consider the period from the late 30s until the late 70s as the 'golden age'. We know the biggest scams from the 80s because of the suffocating law enforcement pressure and many informants, but that's hardly an indicator they did better than before. Also, by the 80s general attrition was in full force, LCN shrank nationwide, more competition, reduced opportunities, lost the casinos, etc. It's very subjective because we'll never really know. I think the mob peaked in the 50s and it was all downhill from there on.
I agree on the power in the 50s

I personally think they peaked in industry in the mid 80s

Drugs too , the late 70s to late 80s brought in a lot more $ as there were so many more drug consumers post 60s and a lot of wise guys got rich from the pizza connection.

But like you said , splitting hairs lol

Re: Who had more power when they were alive?

by eboli » Wed Feb 17, 2021 1:57 pm

TommyNoto wrote: Wed Feb 17, 2021 1:27 pm
eboli wrote: Wed Feb 17, 2021 9:13 am Yeah, not really close. LCN's presence, influence and money flow in Gambino's era were considerably larger.
I hear you but even during the 80s ? when they had the Concrete , Window and Gas rackets in full swing.

The heat was on in the 80s no doubt but I’m not sure the 70s mob made more $ .

I think they might of peaked in the mid 80s when they had all those cartel construction industries on lock down which ended up in them all getting locked up .
I consider the period from the late 30s until the late 70s as the 'golden age'. We know the biggest scams from the 80s because of the suffocating law enforcement pressure and many informants, but that's hardly an indicator they did better than before. Also, by the 80s general attrition was in full force, LCN shrank nationwide, more competition, reduced opportunities, lost the casinos, etc. It's very subjective because we'll never really know. I think the mob peaked in the 50s and it was all downhill from there on.

Re: Who had more power when they were alive?

by TommyNoto » Wed Feb 17, 2021 1:27 pm

eboli wrote: Wed Feb 17, 2021 9:13 am Yeah, not really close. LCN's presence, influence and money flow in Gambino's era were considerably larger.
I hear you but even during the 80s ? when they had the Concrete , Window and Gas rackets in full swing.

The heat was on in the 80s no doubt but I’m not sure the 70s mob made more $ .

I think they might of peaked in the mid 80s when they had all those cartel construction industries on lock down which ended up in them all getting locked up .

Re: Who had more power when they were alive?

by eboli » Wed Feb 17, 2021 9:13 am

Yeah, not really close. LCN's presence, influence and money flow in Gambino's era were considerably larger.

Re: Who had more power when they were alive?

by johnny_scootch » Wed Feb 17, 2021 7:26 am

Gambino and I don’t think it’s even close when you consider the national scope of Cosa Nostra in Gambino’s prime as compared to Gigante.

Re: Who had more power when they were alive?

by Amershire_Ed » Tue Feb 16, 2021 10:30 pm

I’d say Gambino but it’s like sports, you know. It’s hard to compare different eras. Gambino was running around before the US Govt and the Dept of Justice really got their feet under them in regards to slowing down organized crime. Its like the inverse in the NBA. The league changed rules to make it *easier* to score. They got rid of the hand check. They got rid of the “no zone” rule. Whereas in Chin’s era, the govt made it so it became harder to score, so to speak.

Re: Who had more power when they were alive?

by SonnyBlackstein » Tue Feb 16, 2021 9:39 pm

We need to specify about what is defined as 'power'.
What boss held the most 'power' on the street? Gigante?
What boss held more 'power' over the commission? Gigante?
Which boss had more buttons? Gambino?
Which boss had more rackets? Gambino?
Which boss created a better legacy for his family? Gigante?
Which boss was more feared? etc etc etc

The question is too ambiguous to answer.

Re: Who had more power when they were alive?

by Pogo The Clown » Tue Feb 16, 2021 9:21 pm

Gambino. It was just a different era and the influence Gambino had over the other families dwarfs what Ggiagnte was able to yield.


Pogo

Who had more power when they were alive?

by Tonyd621 » Tue Feb 16, 2021 9:17 pm

Carlo Gambino?
Or
The Chin?

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