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Re: Gatto crew still active?

by Rocco » Wed Feb 17, 2021 12:41 pm

Could very well be that Beach is Capo. If you do some research on him going back to the 98ish... He was Coppola's right hand man while on the run and he was also attached at Tino's hip when he got out and Coppola was in the wind.

Re: Gatto crew still active?

by Wiseguy » Tue Feb 16, 2021 11:46 am

JohnnyS wrote: Tue Feb 16, 2021 11:44 amCapeci has him as a capo.
And their niece, Michele Caruso, is the wife of Genovese capo Stephen (Beach) DePiro, who was convicted of being a Cernadas partner in a 30-year-long shakedown of Christmastime "tributes" from 1235 members that netted about $3 million for the crime family.
Oh, good find.

Re: Gatto crew still active?

by JohnnyS » Tue Feb 16, 2021 11:44 am

Wiseguy wrote: Tue Feb 16, 2021 11:32 am
Rocco wrote: Tue Feb 16, 2021 9:07 am
Wiseguy wrote: Fri Feb 05, 2021 2:58 pm
JohnnyS wrote: Fri Feb 05, 2021 2:51 pm Capeci had Ninny Bruschi as an acting captain.
Like Gatto, Bruschi's exact status has been a little confusing. In his 2003 bust, or or two articles listed him as a captain. So did the 2004 NJ report, which did have errors. But then in 2005, when he was indicted with Dentico, it was Dentico who was listed as a captain. This is what it said about Bruschi...

Defendant LUDWIG BRUSCHI, also known as “NINNY,” was associated with the Genovese Crime Family and was involved in the operation of the illegal numbers operation.
http://mafianj.com/denticoindictment.shtml

If Bruschi was an acting captain, that would help narrow things down a bit.
JohnnyS wrote: Fri Feb 05, 2021 2:54 pm And Tona Borelli which would suggest he was acting for Depiro?
Well, like Gatto and Bruschi, Borelli is also dead of course. According to the 2004 report, Borelli was helping run part of the crew at the time. And that was before DePiro even really popped up on the scene. DePiro is still technically a soldier, unless I'm mistaken.
I believe Ninny was indicted or mentioned in Dentico's Indictment because Dentico's crew was using Ninny's book from what I remember.? No ? DePiro is a soldier last time I checked. I believe Coppola will take over when he gets out in a yr or two. But who knows? After Tino died things in the crew could have changed allot. NY leadership could have put a new capo in ?
Yeah, DePiro is a soldier last I saw. Coppola would seem to have seniority in the crew and next in line. DePiro simply became the point guy on the waterfront. And his detention memo said his rise was due, in part, to Coppola's absence.
Capeci has him as a capo.
And their niece, Michele Caruso, is the wife of Genovese capo Stephen (Beach) DePiro, who was convicted of being a Cernadas partner in a 30-year-long shakedown of Christmastime "tributes" from 1235 members that netted about $3 million for the crime family.

Re: Gatto crew still active?

by Wiseguy » Tue Feb 16, 2021 11:32 am

Rocco wrote: Tue Feb 16, 2021 9:07 am
Wiseguy wrote: Fri Feb 05, 2021 2:58 pm
JohnnyS wrote: Fri Feb 05, 2021 2:51 pm Capeci had Ninny Bruschi as an acting captain.
Like Gatto, Bruschi's exact status has been a little confusing. In his 2003 bust, or or two articles listed him as a captain. So did the 2004 NJ report, which did have errors. But then in 2005, when he was indicted with Dentico, it was Dentico who was listed as a captain. This is what it said about Bruschi...

Defendant LUDWIG BRUSCHI, also known as “NINNY,” was associated with the Genovese Crime Family and was involved in the operation of the illegal numbers operation.
http://mafianj.com/denticoindictment.shtml

If Bruschi was an acting captain, that would help narrow things down a bit.
JohnnyS wrote: Fri Feb 05, 2021 2:54 pm And Tona Borelli which would suggest he was acting for Depiro?
Well, like Gatto and Bruschi, Borelli is also dead of course. According to the 2004 report, Borelli was helping run part of the crew at the time. And that was before DePiro even really popped up on the scene. DePiro is still technically a soldier, unless I'm mistaken.
I believe Ninny was indicted or mentioned in Dentico's Indictment because Dentico's crew was using Ninny's book from what I remember.? No ? DePiro is a soldier last time I checked. I believe Coppola will take over when he gets out in a yr or two. But who knows? After Tino died things in the crew could have changed allot. NY leadership could have put a new capo in ?
Yeah, DePiro is a soldier last I saw. Coppola would seem to have seniority in the crew and next in line. DePiro simply became the point guy on the waterfront. And his detention memo said his rise was due, in part, to Coppola's absence.

Re: Gatto crew still active?

by Frank » Tue Feb 16, 2021 10:02 am

Rocco wrote: Tue Feb 16, 2021 9:07 am
Wiseguy wrote: Fri Feb 05, 2021 2:58 pm
JohnnyS wrote: Fri Feb 05, 2021 2:51 pm Capeci had Ninny Bruschi as an acting captain.
Like Gatto, Bruschi's exact status has been a little confusing. In his 2003 bust, or or two articles listed him as a captain. So did the 2004 NJ report, which did have errors. But then in 2005, when he was indicted with Dentico, it was Dentico who was listed as a captain. This is what it said about Bruschi...

Defendant LUDWIG BRUSCHI, also known as “NINNY,” was associated with the Genovese Crime Family and was involved in the operation of the illegal numbers operation.
http://mafianj.com/denticoindictment.shtml

If Bruschi was an acting captain, that would help narrow things down a bit.
JohnnyS wrote: Fri Feb 05, 2021 2:54 pm And Tona Borelli which would suggest he was acting for Depiro?
Well, like Gatto and Bruschi, Borelli is also dead of course. According to the 2004 report, Borelli was helping run part of the crew at the time. And that was before DePiro even really popped up on the scene. DePiro is still technically a soldier, unless I'm mistaken.
I believe Ninny was indicted or mentioned in Dentico's Indictment because Dentico's crew was using Ninny's book from what I remember.? No ? DePiro is a soldier last time I checked. I believe Coppola will take over when he gets out in a yr or two. But who knows? After Tino died things in the crew could have changed allot. NY leadership could have put a new capo in ?
I think Coppola got out

Re: Gatto crew still active?

by Rocco » Tue Feb 16, 2021 9:07 am

Wiseguy wrote: Fri Feb 05, 2021 2:58 pm
JohnnyS wrote: Fri Feb 05, 2021 2:51 pm Capeci had Ninny Bruschi as an acting captain.
Like Gatto, Bruschi's exact status has been a little confusing. In his 2003 bust, or or two articles listed him as a captain. So did the 2004 NJ report, which did have errors. But then in 2005, when he was indicted with Dentico, it was Dentico who was listed as a captain. This is what it said about Bruschi...

Defendant LUDWIG BRUSCHI, also known as “NINNY,” was associated with the Genovese Crime Family and was involved in the operation of the illegal numbers operation.
http://mafianj.com/denticoindictment.shtml

If Bruschi was an acting captain, that would help narrow things down a bit.
JohnnyS wrote: Fri Feb 05, 2021 2:54 pm And Tona Borelli which would suggest he was acting for Depiro?
Well, like Gatto and Bruschi, Borelli is also dead of course. According to the 2004 report, Borelli was helping run part of the crew at the time. And that was before DePiro even really popped up on the scene. DePiro is still technically a soldier, unless I'm mistaken.
I believe Ninny was indicted or mentioned in Dentico's Indictment because Dentico's crew was using Ninny's book from what I remember.? No ? DePiro is a soldier last time I checked. I believe Coppola will take over when he gets out in a yr or two. But who knows? After Tino died things in the crew could have changed allot. NY leadership could have put a new capo in ?

Re: Gatto crew still active?

by InCamelot » Mon Feb 15, 2021 11:40 am

Pogo The Clown wrote: Fri Feb 05, 2021 8:51 pm The Lucchese seems to do it the least. Followed by the Genovese and Gambinos. The Colombos and Bonannos do it s lot.


Pogo
Yeah, although I think I meant the Genovese would split crews alot, while the members within the original crew would stay more or less the same. The Colombos would transfer people to different crews more often, and I think even assign new capos who weren't originally from that crew?

Re: Gatto crew still active?

by InCamelot » Mon Feb 15, 2021 11:37 am

Southshore88 wrote: Sat Feb 06, 2021 1:40 pm Not sure who was boss when this happened, either Colombo or Persico, but also maybe when Gioeli was street boss but I believed it was done to keep things relatively equal. They tried to spread out as evenly as they could to 6 made guys to a crew. Think the reasoning was that there was a lot of jealousy within the family and as a way to keep things as even as possible. Seems like socialism had crept into the Colombo family
Yeah this was very interesting. It seemed like the Colombos would move people to different crews the most too.

Re: Gatto crew still active?

by Southshore88 » Sat Feb 06, 2021 1:40 pm

Not sure who was boss when this happened, either Colombo or Persico, but also maybe when Gioeli was street boss but I believed it was done to keep things relatively equal. They tried to spread out as evenly as they could to 6 made guys to a crew. Think the reasoning was that there was a lot of jealousy within the family and as a way to keep things as even as possible. Seems like socialism had crept into the Colombo family

Re: Gatto crew still active?

by Pogo The Clown » Fri Feb 05, 2021 8:51 pm

The Lucchese seems to do it the least. Followed by the Genovese and Gambinos. The Colombos and Bonannos do it s lot.


Pogo

Re: Gatto crew still active?

by InCamelot » Fri Feb 05, 2021 8:06 pm

Pogo The Clown wrote: Fri Feb 05, 2021 6:58 pm The Colombos and Bonannos do that a lot.


Pogo
Oh ok.

The Gambinos and Lucchese's don't as much?

Re: Gatto crew still active?

by Pogo The Clown » Fri Feb 05, 2021 6:58 pm

The Colombos and Bonannos do that a lot.


Pogo

Re: Gatto crew still active?

by InCamelot » Fri Feb 05, 2021 3:59 pm

The Westside seem to opt to merge, split crews instead of keep a straightforward lineage.

Re: Gatto crew still active?

by Wiseguy » Fri Feb 05, 2021 2:58 pm

JohnnyS wrote: Fri Feb 05, 2021 2:51 pm Capeci had Ninny Bruschi as an acting captain.
Like Gatto, Bruschi's exact status has been a little confusing. In his 2003 bust, or or two articles listed him as a captain. So did the 2004 NJ report, which did have errors. But then in 2005, when he was indicted with Dentico, it was Dentico who was listed as a captain. This is what it said about Bruschi...

Defendant LUDWIG BRUSCHI, also known as “NINNY,” was associated with the Genovese Crime Family and was involved in the operation of the illegal numbers operation.
http://mafianj.com/denticoindictment.shtml

If Bruschi was an acting captain, that would help narrow things down a bit.
JohnnyS wrote: Fri Feb 05, 2021 2:54 pm And Tona Borelli which would suggest he was acting for Depiro?
Well, like Gatto and Bruschi, Borelli is also dead of course. According to the 2004 report, Borelli was helping run part of the crew at the time. And that was before DePiro even really popped up on the scene. DePiro is still technically a soldier, unless I'm mistaken.

Re: Gatto crew still active?

by JohnnyS » Fri Feb 05, 2021 2:54 pm

And Tona Borelli which would suggest he was acting for Depiro?

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