THE BLACK HAND FORUM

cavita wrote: ↑Mon Feb 01, 2021 2:25 pm

Patrickgold wrote: ↑Fri Jan 29, 2021 4:13 pm Im sorry I’m getting confused. Joe Zammuto was the boss. So Joe Skippy was the nephew to Joe Zammuto. Got it now

This was just in today's news about Pete Provenzano

https://wrex.com/2021/02/01/supplycore- ... se-agency/

Patrickgold wrote: ↑Fri Jan 29, 2021 4:13 pm Im sorry I’m getting confused. Joe Zammuto was the boss. So Joe Skippy was the nephew to Joe Zammuto. Got it now

Patrickgold wrote: ↑Fri Jan 29, 2021 4:13 pm Im sorry I’m getting confused. Joe Zammuto was the boss. So Joe Skippy was the nephew to Joe Zammuto. Got it now

Patrickgold wrote: ↑Fri Jan 29, 2021 1:11 pm I forgot to lost the link to the article. It claims he is a nephew to Joe Zammuto. How old is Peter?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.rrstar ... ate=ampart

Patrickgold wrote: ↑Fri Jan 29, 2021 11:54 am

cavita wrote: ↑Fri Jan 29, 2021 10:51 am

Patrickgold wrote: ↑Fri Jan 29, 2021 10:08 am Is the Aragona club still operating? Last I heard they were renting it out for parties and someone was shot there. Peter Provenzano is related to the Zammutos, right?

Yes, everything about the Aragona Club is correct. The LCN stopped having their meetings there in the early 70s. As for Provenzano"s relation to Zammuto, if there is one I believe it's pretty distant. When Nick Provenzano went down for the gambling bust in 2006 the newspaper made a big deal he wasn't related to Pete Provenzano because Pete was in tight with then-Mayor Larry Morrissey.

Thanks for the clarification. Is the Aragona club still being used as an Italian social club and do you know who owns it?

cavita wrote: ↑Fri Jan 29, 2021 10:51 am

Patrickgold wrote: ↑Fri Jan 29, 2021 10:08 am Is the Aragona club still operating? Last I heard they were renting it out for parties and someone was shot there. Peter Provenzano is related to the Zammutos, right?

Yes, everything about the Aragona Club is correct. The LCN stopped having their meetings there in the early 70s. As for Provenzano"s relation to Zammuto, if there is one I believe it's pretty distant. When Nick Provenzano went down for the gambling bust in 2006 the newspaper made a big deal he wasn't related to Pete Provenzano because Pete was in tight with then-Mayor Larry Morrissey.

Patrickgold wrote: ↑Fri Jan 29, 2021 10:08 am Is the Aragona club still operating? Last I heard they were renting it out for parties and someone was shot there. Peter Provenzano is related to the Zammutos, right?

Patrickgold wrote: ↑Thu Jan 28, 2021 4:01 pm

cavita wrote: ↑Thu Jan 28, 2021 2:28 pm

Patrickgold wrote: ↑Thu Jan 28, 2021 1:46 pm So there was no independent black or white organizations like there was in Chicago. Interesting. Do you think there are still floating games in the Rockford area? I mean not much has changed since 2007. Elgin Casino was open at that time and there were still games. I saw that the Hard Rock casino might be coming to Rockford at the old clock tower spot. They might put the temporary casino at Giovanni’s restaurant and banquets. Who owns that?

The only other independent organizations were of course street gangs- Latin Kings, GD, etc. But I have research and such that shows the Rockford LCN were supplying them with narcotics in the 80s at least. There are still floating games going on- I have participated in some of those. They've been ongoing since the 60s and continue. Through FBI files some of them were held in the Chicago suburbs with partnership through the Outfit but these files are redacted and I can't find who the Chicago guys were. This was in the 80s and 90s. Giovanni's is owned by the Castrgiovanni family. That family had a chain of supermarkets in the Rockford area before they sold them and the family branched out to other ventures.

Is the Castrgiovanni family hooked up with the Rockford family? Also, do you know anything about a Peter Provenzano?

cavita wrote: ↑Thu Jan 28, 2021 2:28 pm

Patrickgold wrote: ↑Thu Jan 28, 2021 1:46 pm So there was no independent black or white organizations like there was in Chicago. Interesting. Do you think there are still floating games in the Rockford area? I mean not much has changed since 2007. Elgin Casino was open at that time and there were still games. I saw that the Hard Rock casino might be coming to Rockford at the old clock tower spot. They might put the temporary casino at Giovanni’s restaurant and banquets. Who owns that?

The only other independent organizations were of course street gangs- Latin Kings, GD, etc. But I have research and such that shows the Rockford LCN were supplying them with narcotics in the 80s at least. There are still floating games going on- I have participated in some of those. They've been ongoing since the 60s and continue. Through FBI files some of them were held in the Chicago suburbs with partnership through the Outfit but these files are redacted and I can't find who the Chicago guys were. This was in the 80s and 90s. Giovanni's is owned by the Castrgiovanni family. That family had a chain of supermarkets in the Rockford area before they sold them and the family branched out to other ventures.