THE BLACK HAND FORUM

Strax wrote: ↑Sun Jan 17, 2021 5:46 pm

SantoClaus wrote: ↑Sun Jan 17, 2021 2:30 pm I believe P2’s real name is Licata Freemasonry, out of the West Coast of Sicily, specifically Racalmuto. I’ve been researching it, but am smart enough not to talk as if I know or am involved

Their "real name" is propaganda due. Most powerful masonic lodge in western Sicily is probably Iside

SantoClaus wrote: ↑Sun Jan 17, 2021 2:30 pm I believe P2’s real name is Licata Freemasonry, out of the West Coast of Sicily, specifically Racalmuto. I’ve been researching it, but am smart enough not to talk as if I know or am involved

SantoClaus wrote: ↑Sat Jan 16, 2021 1:50 pm Did Leggio get someone to pull a shotgun on Burlesconi? Is that how they got associated within P2?
Something to do with the Sforza vs the Collins Family of the Federal Reserve?

ChicagoOutfit wrote: ↑Sat Jan 16, 2021 8:39 pm

SantoClaus wrote: ↑Sat Jan 16, 2021 1:50 pm Did Leggio get someone to pull a shotgun on Burlesconi? Is that how they got associated within P2?
Something to do with the Sforza vs the Collins Family of the Federal Reserve?

I def want to hear more about this!

SantoClaus wrote: ↑Sat Jan 16, 2021 1:50 pm Did Leggio get someone to pull a shotgun on Burlesconi? Is that how they got associated within P2?
Something to do with the Sforza vs the Collins Family of the Federal Reserve?

Strax wrote: ↑Sat Jan 16, 2021 10:59 am even president of Vatican bank

Strax wrote: ↑Sat Jan 16, 2021 10:59 am

scagghiuni wrote: ↑Sat Jan 16, 2021 7:15 am i bet the p2 is still active with another name although it was officially dismantled in the 1980s, the original lodge was 'propaganda massonica' founded in 1877, p2 (propaganda 2) was founded after the second world war... gelli was probably involved with cosa nostra in the slaughters of 1990s and berlusconi was a p2 member

Back then Berlusconi was just a businessman, heads of all secret services were members too , Michele Sindona,Roberto Calvi and other huge bankers too , even president of Vatican bank

scagghiuni wrote: ↑Sat Jan 16, 2021 7:15 am i bet the p2 is still active with another name although it was officially dismantled in the 1980s, the original lodge was 'propaganda massonica' founded in 1877, p2 (propaganda 2) was founded after the second world war... gelli was probably involved with cosa nostra in the slaughters of 1990s and berlusconi was a p2 member

Strax wrote: ↑Sat Jan 16, 2021 5:31 am

Ivan wrote: ↑Fri Jan 15, 2021 10:28 pm There's a reference to this stuff in Godfather 3 regarding the main villain Don Lucchesi. Vincent mentions he's involved with the P2 Masonic lodge.

There's more about this at this link. The character is based on Gelli, who is mentioned in a post above (Don Lucchesi's first name is even "Licio").

'Ndrangheta boss Pantaleone Mancuso was recorded saying "It's not about 'Ndrangheta anymore,its about masonic lodges , P3, P4..."

I think police never confirmed existence of P3/P4 like P2 back in 1980's.

Ivan wrote: ↑Fri Jan 15, 2021 10:28 pm There's a reference to this stuff in Godfather 3 regarding the main villain Don Lucchesi. Vincent mentions he's involved with the P2 Masonic lodge.

There's more about this at this link. The character is based on Gelli, who is mentioned in a post above (Don Lucchesi's first name is even "Licio").