The Museum of Las Vegas excludes the bosses of the 'Ndrangheta: "Not very fashionable, they look like shepherds"

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Re: The Museum of Las Vegas excludes the bosses of the 'Ndrangheta: "Not very fashionable, they look like shepherds"

by sdeitche » Sat Jan 16, 2021 5:11 pm

Ivan wrote: Sat Jan 16, 2021 4:14 pm
sdeitche wrote: Sat Jan 16, 2021 7:22 am Disclaimer- I'm a member of the Museum's Advisory Council.
The Mob Museum is fantastic and meeting you there was awesome. You coming back any time soon? I live down the road from it haha.
Looking like mid September. I Will let you know when confirmed.

Re: The Museum of Las Vegas excludes the bosses of the 'Ndrangheta: "Not very fashionable, they look like shepherds"

by SantoClaus » Sat Jan 16, 2021 4:24 pm

I believe it would pay reference to the racism that people like Frank Costello suffered, seeing as he changed his name from Francesco Castaglia to sound more Irish.

The Irish were hanging Sicilans in New Orleans and other terrible things all across the United States. Something to do with the Scottish Rite, like Andrew Carnegie, as well as Bugsy Siegel in Hollywood.

It’s like Solomon’s Gold and the Harlot. In the end I believe it’s because of Italians betraying Italians to these people, as well as the Kahzar stuff related to the Scarfo and Riccobene wars, as well as why Lansky wasn’t accepted in Israel.

In Sopranos they call them the Wonder Bread Wops.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=haBHc6o4dAQ....like Joe Pistone or Rudy Guilianni

It’s like Clark Gable in Naples and the rest of Southern Italy, with Aliester Crowley, Aliester Crowley is huge in Hollywood and so is the Black Magik he was doing in Southern Italy and Sicily.

IMO!

Re: The Museum of Las Vegas excludes the bosses of the 'Ndrangheta: "Not very fashionable, they look like shepherds"

by Ivan » Sat Jan 16, 2021 4:14 pm

sdeitche wrote: Sat Jan 16, 2021 7:22 am Disclaimer- I'm a member of the Museum's Advisory Council.
The Mob Museum is fantastic and meeting you there was awesome. You coming back any time soon? I live down the road from it haha.

Re: The Museum of Las Vegas excludes the bosses of the 'Ndrangheta: "Not very fashionable, they look like shepherds"

by Grouchy Sinatra » Sat Jan 16, 2021 11:14 am

What significance does the Ndranghata have on the American mob, much less on Vegas for that matter, other than many American mobsters merely having Calabrese lineage? I know Costello was Calabrese, but he was also one of the founders of the very "Americanized" iteration of the American mob families.

I'm honestly not sure what significance the Sicilian mafia or Neapolitan Camorra would have on Vegas history, either. They had no direct involvement. It was mostly Jewish associates of the Americanized Italian mob.

Re: The Museum of Las Vegas excludes the bosses of the 'Ndrangheta: "Not very fashionable, they look like shepherds"

by sdeitche » Sat Jan 16, 2021 7:22 am

Disclaimer- I'm a member of the Museum's Advisory Council.

Not sure how old the article is, but the Museum has featured the 'ndrangheta in a number of its blog posts of late and had them as part of their transitional organized crime exhibit. I did a piece on the Camorra in 2020.

The museum is limited by space, so artifacts and interactive history of the Mafia and law enforcement in the United States is certainly one of the focuses. They have branched out to exhibits on El Chapo, drug cartels, wildlife trafficking, etc. One of the hallmarks of the Museum is that they are constantly changing their offerings and adding new exhibits.

And,this is my opinion, but at the end of the day, the people who visit the Museum want to see the artifacts that they relate to, whether its the wall from the St. Valentine's massacre, or John Gotti's suits, or classic Vegas mementos, or the recent temporary exhibit with the original checks and paperwork from the Flamingo.

Re: The Museum of Las Vegas excludes the bosses of the 'Ndrangheta: "Not very fashionable, they look like shepherds"

by furiofromnaples » Sat Jan 16, 2021 2:40 am

SantoClaus wrote: Fri Jan 15, 2021 9:38 pm Maybe it has something to do with Reggio and Bagarella?

Does anyone know what Sal Riina meant when he said that? 1:20ish mark

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMeXtNp1ocs
Wash the mouth with the vinegard its an expression for say to a person that he must speak with respect of a person.

Re: The Museum of Las Vegas excludes the bosses of the 'Ndrangheta: "Not very fashionable, they look like shepherds"

by SantoClaus » Fri Jan 15, 2021 9:38 pm

Maybe it has something to do with Reggio and Bagarella?

Does anyone know what Sal Riina meant when he said that? 1:20ish mark

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMeXtNp1ocs

Re: The Museum of Las Vegas excludes the bosses of the 'Ndrangheta: "Not very fashionable, they look like shepherds"

by scagghiuni » Fri Jan 15, 2021 11:43 am

the museum is in las vegas, the ndrangheta has never been powerful in the states, that's probably the reason

The Museum of Las Vegas excludes the bosses of the 'Ndrangheta: "Not very fashionable, they look like shepherds"

by furiofromnaples » Fri Jan 15, 2021 5:43 am

https://www.reggiotv.it/notizie/attuali ... no-pecorai

An old but interesting article

The only Italian admitted to the 'gotha' is Matteo Messina Denaro.

Mafia, the Museum of Las Vegas excludes the bosses of the 'Ndrangheta: "Not very fashionable, they look like shepherds"

No Calabrian bosses in the pantheon of world bosses. "Too 'not very chic', they dress badly and are never seen in films and TV series", say the curators of the Historical Museum of the Mafia in Las Vegas, The Mob Museum founded in 2011, which in the Pantheon of the five most powerful mafia leaders of the world has not entered any Calabrian boss
https://themobmuseum.org/blog/worlds-to ... ob-bosses/.

This was revealed by Klaus Davi who in his book 'The Killer of the N'drangheta' analyzes the reasons for this 'exclusion' and retraces the careers of ten hit men, many of whom also operate in foreign countries such as Switzerland, Canada, Germany, Spain and America. And he tells of the sensational narrative deficit that characterizes the criminal organization that manages international drug trafficking with South American bosses.

What Nicola Gratteri defines as the 'most powerful mafia in the world' is classified as a picturesque branch of the Cosa Nostra in a museum celebrated even by the 'New York Times' for its 'historical purposes' as reported by the website of the 'Museum of the Bosses'.

"The Ukrainian Semion Mogilevich, the head of the Japanese Yzuka Shigerau Shirai, ends up in the Gotha of leaders; Nemesio Oseguara Cervantes known as 'El Mencho' at the head of the Mexican cartels and Matteo Messina Denaro and Matthew Madonna regent of American Cosa Nostra.

“We have not decided to include any Calabrian boss, or Canadians of Calabrian origin, they are not iconographic enough”, the PR of the Museum explain to Klaus Davi.
"There aren't any movies about them or important books we can rely on - the Museum has come to tweet - but that doesn't mean they're not dangerous."

The Ndrangheta, Davi says, is described as an organization "that dominates drug trafficking in Europe and beyond. There is a poor mention of Giuseppe Giorgi known as 'Goat' arrested by the Carabinieri in 2017 and remembered for the aberrant kiss of the hand of one of his admirers, which was filmed on TV all over the world; and for Giuseppe Pelle arrested in Condorfuri. "

No sector of the Museum is destined for the Ndrangheta. Not a single line is spent on the so-called Siderno Group, which has played a leading criminal role in Canada for at least 50 years and is the protagonist of a very violent feud.
Director Geoff Schumacher explains the choice of characters in this way: "Ours is a museum on crime but prefers the logic of entertainment. We are in Las Vegas. For this we have given a lot of space to the Italian-American mafia (Lucky Luciano, Al Capone, John Gotti), to the Jewish one that was closely linked to the Italians (Bug Siegel, Mickey Cohen, Arnold Rothstein).

“The Ndrangheta - he reiterates - is a mafia that cannot be seen and is not told. Every now and then we relaunch something on twitter but they are news stories. Not useful for a suggestive story. We do marketing and as you can see by walking through our museum there are also models of the bosses' clothes, their guns, cigar cases, copies of electric chairs, reconstructions of the salons in which they gambled, the most famous brothels . " Leaving the museum, you can buy gadgets with the image of the bosses and the 'memories' of the bosses. It would therefore be difficult to exhibit bagpipes, tambourines and accordions from Aspromonte.

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