THE BLACK HAND FORUM

Tonyd621 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 15, 2021 1:52 pm I don't see Mancuso as next logical candidate
Cammarano and Porky just beat a case. They had guys behind them, supposedly Spirito Sr. who just got out at 63 yrs old and some guys seem tougher than Mancuso and probably has more respectful and feared more. So it wasn't just cut and dry case with Mancuso. I remember Lovaglio bugged that meeting in the garage where it was almost going to come to a war. So again Mancuso stepping on toes. There's also the part where he killed his wife left her on a park bench at a hospital and went on vacation.

Pmac2 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 15, 2021 4:59 pm Angeli prisco was on a wire tap around 03 04 speaking highly of Mike mancuso...

slimshady_007 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 15, 2021 10:51 am

Tonyd621 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 15, 2021 5:10 am

slimshady_007 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 9:33 pm

Tonyd621 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 8:03 pm

slimshady_007 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 12:40 pm I really doubt that Madonna and the Lucchese’s were plotting to kill Mancuso. Madonna already had enough problems with the law on his plate. The heat from killing a boss nowadays would be incredible. I think that the rat Pasqua completely made up the story.

Idk, I disagree. Madonna doesn't give a fuck about jail imo
He's one of those gangsters, the salt of the earth type. If he knows he's being arrested 48 hrs later I think he's smart enough to understand that but he doesn't care. If it wasn't made up that is.

Doesn’t whacking a boss require approval from the other bosses? Madonna definitely knew that he couldn’t just kill a boss and not suffer any backlash.

I would agree with you there. That's the rule we all come to understand. Persico JR is locked up so is Amuso, so I guess whoever the boss is for the binos and genoveses you can asl them. It might not be required bc the risk nowadays trying to get a message to all the bosses is automatically life. The way Mancuso self appointed himself or as it seems that way seems he didn't follow the rules himself. Or who's going to challenge Madonna or enforce the rules if he does do this.
Isn't kind of personal anyways?
Didn't Madonna fail to recognize Mancuso as boss and a bunch of guys showed up at the social club packing heat?
There's my diatribe on quite possibly a bullshit story by Pasqua

I think Mancuso appointing himself the boss was an exception to the rule that nobody can appoint themself boss. At the time Mancuso appointed himself boss, the Bonanno’s didn’t have an official boss after Massino flipped. Vinny Gorgeous was in the can and he didn’t have enough support on the street, so Mancuso seemed like the guy next in the line to take over. Regarding Madonna not recognizing Mancuso, I don’t see the logic behind it. The Lukes didn’t want to recognize Mancuso because he was in prison which is absolutely ridiculous since Vic Amuso is the Lukes’ imprisoned for life boss.

Tonyd621 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 15, 2021 5:10 am

slimshady_007 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 9:33 pm

Tonyd621 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 8:03 pm

slimshady_007 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 12:40 pm I really doubt that Madonna and the Lucchese’s were plotting to kill Mancuso. Madonna already had enough problems with the law on his plate. The heat from killing a boss nowadays would be incredible. I think that the rat Pasqua completely made up the story.

Idk, I disagree. Madonna doesn't give a fuck about jail imo
He's one of those gangsters, the salt of the earth type. If he knows he's being arrested 48 hrs later I think he's smart enough to understand that but he doesn't care. If it wasn't made up that is.

Doesn’t whacking a boss require approval from the other bosses? Madonna definitely knew that he couldn’t just kill a boss and not suffer any backlash.

I would agree with you there. That's the rule we all come to understand. Persico JR is locked up so is Amuso, so I guess whoever the boss is for the binos and genoveses you can asl them. It might not be required bc the risk nowadays trying to get a message to all the bosses is automatically life. The way Mancuso self appointed himself or as it seems that way seems he didn't follow the rules himself. Or who's going to challenge Madonna or enforce the rules if he does do this.
Isn't kind of personal anyways?
Didn't Madonna fail to recognize Mancuso as boss and a bunch of guys showed up at the social club packing heat?
There's my diatribe on quite possibly a bullshit story by Pasqua

slimshady_007 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 9:33 pm

Tonyd621 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 8:03 pm

slimshady_007 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 12:40 pm I really doubt that Madonna and the Lucchese’s were plotting to kill Mancuso. Madonna already had enough problems with the law on his plate. The heat from killing a boss nowadays would be incredible. I think that the rat Pasqua completely made up the story.

Idk, I disagree. Madonna doesn't give a fuck about jail imo
He's one of those gangsters, the salt of the earth type. If he knows he's being arrested 48 hrs later I think he's smart enough to understand that but he doesn't care. If it wasn't made up that is.

Doesn’t whacking a boss require approval from the other bosses? Madonna definitely knew that he couldn’t just kill a boss and not suffer any backlash.

Tonyd621 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 8:03 pm

slimshady_007 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 12:40 pm I really doubt that Madonna and the Lucchese’s were plotting to kill Mancuso. Madonna already had enough problems with the law on his plate. The heat from killing a boss nowadays would be incredible. I think that the rat Pasqua completely made up the story.

Idk, I disagree. Madonna doesn't give a fuck about jail imo
He's one of those gangsters, the salt of the earth type. If he knows he's being arrested 48 hrs later I think he's smart enough to understand that but he doesn't care. If it wasn't made up that is.

Hired_Goonz wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 8:22 am I don't know if I buy this supposed murder contract on Mancuso. So the source is Pasqua? Let me guess, Agent Otto was the one that Pasqua first told about the conspiracy? I guess this is why Londonio was so determined to break out of MDC, because he had to then break IN to Danbury to kill Mikey Nose.

Hired_Goonz wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 8:22 am I don't know if I buy this supposed murder contract on Mancuso. So the source is Pasqua? Let me guess, Agent Otto was the one that Pasqua first told about the conspiracy? I guess this is why Londonio was so determined to break out of MDC, because he had to then break IN to Danbury to kill Mikey Nose.

Hired_Goonz wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 8:22 am I don't know if I buy this supposed murder contract on Mancuso. So the source is Pasqua? Let me guess, Agent Otto was the one that Pasqua first told about the conspiracy? I guess this is why Londonio was so determined to break out of MDC, because he had to then break IN to Danbury to kill Mikey Nose.