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Re: Cleveland war factions?

by Stroccos » Mon Jan 18, 2021 10:01 am

NothingNew44 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 18, 2021 6:45 am
Stroccos wrote: ↑Sun Jan 17, 2021 9:51 pm
JCB1977 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 16, 2021 11:10 pm This file has some great intel. It’s lengthy but worth the read if you’re interested in the Cleveland War with Green.

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.htm ... 2&tab=page
Good , I always found it interesting that Ferrito says i would be taken to be made in Detroit and given youngstown,


Was that ferrito book any good?
i didnt think so , i bought it and only skimmed through it , in the book his wife claims he was made in Cleveland after the hit

Re: Cleveland war factions?

by NothingNew44 » Mon Jan 18, 2021 6:45 am

Stroccos wrote: ↑Sun Jan 17, 2021 9:51 pm
JCB1977 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 16, 2021 11:10 pm This file has some great intel. It’s lengthy but worth the read if you’re interested in the Cleveland War with Green.

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.htm ... 2&tab=page
Good , I always found it interesting that Ferrito says i would be taken to be made in Detroit and given youngstown,


Was that ferrito book any good?

Re: Cleveland war factions?

by Stroccos » Sun Jan 17, 2021 9:51 pm

JCB1977 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 16, 2021 11:10 pm This file has some great intel. It’s lengthy but worth the read if you’re interested in the Cleveland War with Green.

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.htm ... 2&tab=page
Good , I always found it interesting that Ferrito says i would be taken to be made in Detroit and given youngstown,

Re: Cleveland war factions?

by Pogo The Clown » Sun Jan 17, 2021 10:21 am

Stroccos wrote: ↑Sat Jan 16, 2021 10:23 pm
Pogo The Clown wrote: ↑Sat Jan 16, 2021 1:43 pm After Greene-Nardi had Moceri whacked did they plot any other hits against the Clevleand family? I don't recall hearing of any. Seems they just sat back after that instead of pressing the attack.
yes but i dont think any were executed against any more made guys , if remember they tried to bomb eugene ciasullo again and allie calabrese and john delzoppo,

Yes that's right. Completely forgot about the Ciasullo attack. Seems that they could have won the conflict if they had targeted guys like Licsvoli, Lonardo and Delsanter instead.


Pogo

Re: Cleveland war factions?

by JCB1977 » Sat Jan 16, 2021 11:10 pm

This file has some great intel. It’s lengthy but worth the read if you’re interested in the Cleveland War with Green.

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.htm ... 2&tab=page

Re: Cleveland war factions?

by JCB1977 » Sat Jan 16, 2021 11:04 pm

Stroccos wrote: ↑Sat Jan 16, 2021 1:32 pm
JCB1977 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 15, 2021 11:23 pm
IrishDave wrote: ↑Wed Jan 13, 2021 1:51 pm Where did the rumor come from about Nardi being considered for Boss? Milano wanted his son Pete to come back to Cleveland but Pete refused and stayed in LA. Could Nardi have been acting as a Milano puppet? How come Nardi was never made?
Milano was already dead. He passed in 1976
You have your dates mixed up Mister Milano passed in 1978

Nardi may of gotten a pass, That is until he killed moceri then he was going to get whacked no matter what , I highly doubt Milano would support a hit on a made man , He would know that would be a death sentence
I was talking about Milano and for some reason put in the year Scalish passed. I always get those two dates confused.

Re: Cleveland war factions?

by Stroccos » Sat Jan 16, 2021 10:24 pm

IrishDave wrote: ↑Sat Jan 16, 2021 9:45 pm After the hit on Moceri, isn't that when Jack white offered them the west side gambling? I don't recall of any other hits.

Does anyone have info on the cattle ranch Green and Nardi were going to run in Texas with Paul Castellano's backing?
i think it was after nardi got hit

Re: Cleveland war factions?

by Stroccos » Sat Jan 16, 2021 10:23 pm

Pogo The Clown wrote: ↑Sat Jan 16, 2021 1:43 pm After Greene-Nardi had Moceri whacked did they plot any other hits against the Clevleand family? I don't recall hearing of any. Seems they just sat back after that instead of pressing the attack.


Pogo
yes but i dont think any were executed against any more made guys , if remember they tried to bomb eugene ciasullo again and allie calabrese and john delzoppo,

Re: Cleveland war factions?

by IrishDave » Sat Jan 16, 2021 9:45 pm

After the hit on Moceri, isn't that when Jack white offered them the west side gambling? I don't recall of any other hits.

Does anyone have info on the cattle ranch Green and Nardi were going to run in Texas with Paul Castellano's backing?

Re: Cleveland war factions?

by Pogo The Clown » Sat Jan 16, 2021 1:43 pm

After Greene-Nardi had Moceri whacked did they plot any other hits against the Clevleand family? I don't recall hearing of any. Seems they just sat back after that instead of pressing the attack.


Pogo

Re: Cleveland war factions?

by Stroccos » Sat Jan 16, 2021 1:32 pm

JCB1977 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 15, 2021 11:23 pm
IrishDave wrote: ↑Wed Jan 13, 2021 1:51 pm Where did the rumor come from about Nardi being considered for Boss? Milano wanted his son Pete to come back to Cleveland but Pete refused and stayed in LA. Could Nardi have been acting as a Milano puppet? How come Nardi was never made?
Milano was already dead. He passed in 1976
You have your dates mixed up Mister Milano passed in 1978

Nardi may of gotten a pass, That is until he killed moceri then he was going to get whacked no matter what , I highly doubt Milano would support a hit on a made man , He would know that would be a death sentence

Re: Cleveland war factions?

by NothingNew44 » Sat Jan 16, 2021 2:56 am

Small Family or not, Licavoli was winning that war. The National syndicate was still thoroughly entrenched in that Life. Even if Cleveland didn’t have their own shooters they’d be able to source some. Kudos to the opposition for lasting as long as they did, but as history showed us I t was only a matter of time.

Re: Cleveland war factions?

by JCB1977 » Fri Jan 15, 2021 11:23 pm

IrishDave wrote: ↑Wed Jan 13, 2021 1:51 pm Where did the rumor come from about Nardi being considered for Boss? Milano wanted his son Pete to come back to Cleveland but Pete refused and stayed in LA. Could Nardi have been acting as a Milano puppet? How come Nardi was never made?
I’m not sure of how Milano viewed their relationship through marriage. Stroccos would have more insight

Re: Cleveland war factions?

by furiofromnaples » Fri Jan 15, 2021 1:42 am

IrishDave wrote: ↑Wed Jan 13, 2021 1:51 pm Where did the rumor come from about Nardi being considered for Boss? Milano wanted his son Pete to come back to Cleveland but Pete refused and stayed in LA. Could Nardi have been acting as a Milano puppet? How come Nardi was never made?
Nardi was never made because considerate too independent.

Re: Cleveland war factions?

by IrishDave » Wed Jan 13, 2021 1:51 pm

Where did the rumor come from about Nardi being considered for Boss? Milano wanted his son Pete to come back to Cleveland but Pete refused and stayed in LA. Could Nardi have been acting as a Milano puppet? How come Nardi was never made?

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