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Re: What the guys on the street thought of other families

by Uforeality » Wed Nov 10, 2021 12:39 am

I always thought the "farmer" comments about the Decavalcantes was a baseball reference. The farm team. Minor leaguers... what the hell do I know tho?

Re: What the guys on the street thought of other families

by InCamelot » Mon Nov 08, 2021 10:38 pm

Shellackhead wrote: ↑Sat Oct 23, 2021 1:31 pm
bluehouse wrote: ↑Sat Oct 23, 2021 3:59 am
Shellackhead wrote: ↑Thu Oct 21, 2021 8:28 am
bluehouse wrote: ↑Tue Oct 19, 2021 10:12 pm Just reread murder machine apparently roy demeo started with the Luchesses but saw them as inferior and was desperate to join the gambinos.I wonder if his body count would of been as high if he stayed withn the luchesses
I don’t think that’s right, I remember reading that guys from that area Canarsie & it’s surrounding neighborhoods wanted to join the Lucchese Family.
"Always on the alert for new business partners, as was Roy, Nino sent a message through mutual
acquaintances for Roy to stop by the next time he was in Bath Beach. Roy did not need a second
invitation. Anthony Gaggi was a made man in the Gambino family, the city’s most important, and
Roy was nothing if not ambitious and opportunistic. He did not intend to spend his life hanging out
at junkyards, the horizon he saw with the Lucchese family.

This is the direct quote from MM.He saw the luchesses as small time.Even that junkie rat frank paqua said if he got his button with the gambinos it would of meant more on the street than having his button with the luchesses.Imagane a made guy with the colombos staten island crew vs a made guy with the genevese 116th crew.Theres no way the 2 are in the same league
Thanks, I read MM almost 3 years ago

& yeah i get what you mean… but not now but back then didn’t the Lukes have powerhouses in almost every borough? I always thought that they had the best quality guys in terms of earning?
The reason for this could be that the Luccheses were more a system for independent earners (thus the smaller # of members, alleged high number of millionaires, etc. I think even Gaspipe said they were more independent) -- while the Gambinos were perhaps a huge group that would bring you into large operations that were already a going thing. So if the guy started out at a junkyard and didn't know how as an entrepreneur how to build from that - it might seem like the Lukes weren't doing much for him. Meanwhile maybe DeMeo saw a lot of Lucchese buttons around the junk yard and other clandestine businesses because they were a little more independent minded. Just a thought.

Re: What the guys on the street thought of other families

by Shellackhead » Sat Oct 23, 2021 1:31 pm

bluehouse wrote: ↑Sat Oct 23, 2021 3:59 am
Shellackhead wrote: ↑Thu Oct 21, 2021 8:28 am
bluehouse wrote: ↑Tue Oct 19, 2021 10:12 pm Just reread murder machine apparently roy demeo started with the Luchesses but saw them as inferior and was desperate to join the gambinos.I wonder if his body count would of been as high if he stayed withn the luchesses
I don’t think that’s right, I remember reading that guys from that area Canarsie & it’s surrounding neighborhoods wanted to join the Lucchese Family.
"Always on the alert for new business partners, as was Roy, Nino sent a message through mutual
acquaintances for Roy to stop by the next time he was in Bath Beach. Roy did not need a second
invitation. Anthony Gaggi was a made man in the Gambino family, the city’s most important, and
Roy was nothing if not ambitious and opportunistic. He did not intend to spend his life hanging out
at junkyards, the horizon he saw with the Lucchese family.

This is the direct quote from MM.He saw the luchesses as small time.Even that junkie rat frank paqua said if he got his button with the gambinos it would of meant more on the street than having his button with the luchesses.Imagane a made guy with the colombos staten island crew vs a made guy with the genevese 116th crew.Theres no way the 2 are in the same league
Thanks, I read MM almost 3 years ago

& yeah i get what you mean… but not now but back then didn’t the Lukes have powerhouses in almost every borough? I always thought that they had the best quality guys in terms of earning?

Re: What the guys on the street thought of other families

by bluehouse » Sat Oct 23, 2021 3:59 am

Shellackhead wrote: ↑Thu Oct 21, 2021 8:28 am
bluehouse wrote: ↑Tue Oct 19, 2021 10:12 pm Just reread murder machine apparently roy demeo started with the Luchesses but saw them as inferior and was desperate to join the gambinos.I wonder if his body count would of been as high if he stayed withn the luchesses
I don’t think that’s right, I remember reading that guys from that area Canarsie & it’s surrounding neighborhoods wanted to join the Lucchese Family.
"Always on the alert for new business partners, as was Roy, Nino sent a message through mutual
acquaintances for Roy to stop by the next time he was in Bath Beach. Roy did not need a second
invitation. Anthony Gaggi was a made man in the Gambino family, the city’s most important, and
Roy was nothing if not ambitious and opportunistic. He did not intend to spend his life hanging out
at junkyards, the horizon he saw with the Lucchese family.

This is the direct quote from MM.He saw the luchesses as small time.Even that junkie rat frank paqua said if he got his button with the gambinos it would of meant more on the street than having his button with the luchesses.Imagane a made guy with the colombos staten island crew vs a made guy with the genevese 116th crew.Theres no way the 2 are in the same league

Re: What the guys on the street thought of other families

by PolackTony » Thu Oct 21, 2021 4:21 pm

SB1825 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 21, 2021 4:01 pm Accardo said the guys from New York were animals.
JeremyTheJew wrote: ↑Thu Oct 21, 2021 1:32 pm Didn’t lefty say Chicago was full of animals or maniacs ?? Something of the sort
They were both right.

Re: What the guys on the street thought of other families

by Shellackhead » Thu Oct 21, 2021 4:21 pm

SB1825 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 21, 2021 4:12 pm
Shellackhead wrote: ↑Thu Oct 21, 2021 8:28 am
bluehouse wrote: ↑Tue Oct 19, 2021 10:12 pm Just reread murder machine apparently roy demeo started with the Luchesses but saw them as inferior and was desperate to join the gambinos.I wonder if his body count would of been as high if he stayed withn the luchesses
I don’t think that’s right, I remember reading that guys from that area Canarsie & it’s surrounding neighborhoods wanted to join the Lucchese Family.
In Canarsie you had the Nicky Corozzo/ Lenny Di Maria crew for the Gambino’s, and a Lucchese presence with the Vario crew & Amuso/ Casso hanging around in the area. DeMeo was big in Flatlands. Andrew DiDonato’s book was decent, he was a Gambino associate from Canarsie w/ Corozzo who had beefs with the Lucchese’s in the area and also the Colombo’s. He had problems with Danny Cutaia who took over the Vario crew at some point. Also had problems with Wild Bill. Who was that Lucchese soldier originally from Canarsie who ended up w the Prince St crew? There was an old NYTimes article that mentioned he was busted stealing a car when he was 17. Car theft was big in that area. He was shelved for being a junkie, Pennisi said he was introduced to him as a friend by Dom Truscello which was an infraction since he was shelved. His name’s escaping me.
Anthony Grado

Re: What the guys on the street thought of other families

by SB1825 » Thu Oct 21, 2021 4:12 pm

Shellackhead wrote: ↑Thu Oct 21, 2021 8:28 am
bluehouse wrote: ↑Tue Oct 19, 2021 10:12 pm Just reread murder machine apparently roy demeo started with the Luchesses but saw them as inferior and was desperate to join the gambinos.I wonder if his body count would of been as high if he stayed withn the luchesses
I don’t think that’s right, I remember reading that guys from that area Canarsie & it’s surrounding neighborhoods wanted to join the Lucchese Family.
In Canarsie you had the Nicky Corozzo/ Lenny Di Maria crew for the Gambino’s, and a Lucchese presence with the Vario crew & Amuso/ Casso hanging around in the area. DeMeo was big in Flatlands. Andrew DiDonato’s book was decent, he was a Gambino associate from Canarsie w/ Corozzo who had beefs with the Lucchese’s in the area and also the Colombo’s. He had problems with Danny Cutaia who took over the Vario crew at some point. Also had problems with Wild Bill. Who was that Lucchese soldier originally from Canarsie who ended up w the Prince St crew? There was an old NYTimes article that mentioned he was busted stealing a car when he was 17. Car theft was big in that area. He was shelved for being a junkie, Pennisi said he was introduced to him as a friend by Dom Truscello which was an infraction since he was shelved. His name’s escaping me.

Re: What the guys on the street thought of other families

by SB1825 » Thu Oct 21, 2021 4:01 pm

Accardo said the guys from New York were animals.

Re: What the guys on the street thought of other families

by PolackTony » Thu Oct 21, 2021 1:47 pm

JeremyTheJew wrote: ↑Thu Oct 21, 2021 1:32 pm Didn’t lefty say Chicago was full of animals or maniacs ?? Something of the sort

It was either during the Milwaukee or the Chicago art skeem
Which Lefty? Regardless, if someone made that statement they weren’t far off lol.

Re: What the guys on the street thought of other families

by JeremyTheJew » Thu Oct 21, 2021 1:32 pm

Didn’t lefty say Chicago was full of animals or maniacs ?? Something of the sort

It was either during the Milwaukee or the Chicago art skeem

Re: What the guys on the street thought of other families

by Shellackhead » Thu Oct 21, 2021 8:28 am

bluehouse wrote: ↑Tue Oct 19, 2021 10:12 pm Just reread murder machine apparently roy demeo started with the Luchesses but saw them as inferior and was desperate to join the gambinos.I wonder if his body count would of been as high if he stayed withn the luchesses
I don’t think that’s right, I remember reading that guys from that area Canarsie & it’s surrounding neighborhoods wanted to join the Lucchese Family.

Re: What the guys on the street thought of other families

by bluehouse » Tue Oct 19, 2021 10:12 pm

Just reread murder machine apparently roy demeo started with the Luchesses but saw them as inferior and was desperate to join the gambinos.I wonder if his body count would of been as high if he stayed withn the luchesses

Re: What the guys on the street thought of other families

by GaspipeCasso » Tue Feb 23, 2021 11:20 pm

Gene probably got pretty grumpy during that 50 year sentence

Re: What the guys on the street thought of other families

by PolackTony » Tue Feb 23, 2021 10:12 pm

Snakes wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 9:56 pm Ha, what a typo! Chicago does/did seem to be full of avid golfers.
Indeed. Describing Solly as a "golfer" was very... accurate.

Re: What the guys on the street thought of other families

by Snakes » Tue Feb 23, 2021 9:56 pm

Ha, what a typo! Chicago does/did seem to be full of avid golfers.

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