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Re: Mafia tidbits in non-mafia related books

by B. » Wed Dec 30, 2020 12:49 am

I don't remember the exact book, either Sudden Terror or Hunting a Psychopath, which came out before the GSK serial killer was finally caught, but one of those books says they had a suspect living in Bay Area California in the late 1970s who was connected to the "Banayo" mafia family from the East Coast, but he was later ruled out as a suspect.

The suspect had been reported as a suspect by his wife, I believe, but I'm wondering who it might have been. The book changes names so "Banayo" is definitely meant to be Bonanno. There were former Bonanno members/associates/relatives in the Bay Area, so seems someone connected to the Bonannos in California was the suspect. I assume it was a younger relative of an inactive member from the old Bonanno faction but hard to narrow it down without more info.

There is another mafia reference in one of those books, too, as one of the first rape victims was an Italian-American woman who had her father-in-law visiting from Italy. Supposedly the father-in-law was a "godfather" in Italy and asked LE to tell him the name of the rapist so he could have him killed himself. They use the name "Frank Rossali" as a pseudonym for the husband / son of the alleged "godfather". No clue who this might have been or if there was any truth to a mafia connection.

Re: Mafia tidbits in non-mafia related books

by Hired_Goonz » Tue Dec 29, 2020 9:08 pm

In the book Homicide: A Year in the Killing Streets by David Simon there's a quick anecdote how in May 1988 the Baltimore homicide detectives he was following worked a case where Tommy DelGiorno's shithead of a son and his buddy got in a fight with a guy outside a bar and his friend ended up shooting the guy dead. I guess they had the family in witness protection so close to Philly because the big RICO trial hadn't gone down yet and Tommy Del was really busy with all the court appearances at this time.

Re: Mafia tidbits in non-mafia related books

by JVerilla » Tue Dec 29, 2020 3:50 am

Ill also check these out

Re: Mafia tidbits in non-mafia related books

by JoeNGallo » Tue Dec 01, 2020 5:55 am

Thanks for all your input guys. Some great nuggets of information. Will be checking out the books recommended!

Re: Mafia tidbits in non-mafia related books

by JCB1977 » Mon Nov 30, 2020 9:40 pm

Check out a book called The Devil’s Pact regarding Jackie Presser.

Re: Mafia tidbits in non-mafia related books

by JCB1977 » Mon Nov 30, 2020 9:39 pm

Quite a few Sinatra books, lots of JFK books, Roaring 20’s Old Hollywood books will most likely carry some underlying mob story.

Re: Mafia tidbits in non-mafia related books

by JCB1977 » Mon Nov 30, 2020 9:25 pm

This was a good one. Dean Martin’s youth with Steubenville gangsters, Rubbing elbows all over the country.

https://www.amazon.com/Dino-Living-Dirt ... 038533429X

Re: Mafia tidbits in non-mafia related books

by Grouchy Sinatra » Fri Nov 27, 2020 1:14 pm

Pogo The Clown wrote: Thu Nov 12, 2020 1:21 pm In fiction.


There is a reference to the 5 families in Jaws. It is revealed in the novel that the reason Mayor Vaughn was so bent on keeping the beaches open despite the threat of the shark was because the 5 families of NY had invested into Amittyville (on Long Island) and we're putting pressure on him to keep them open so as not to hurt their businesses. Thought that was a neat little subplot when I read it.


Pogo
I'm glad they cut that out of the movie because it was too period specific. The mob doesn't have that kind of power anymore but politicians corrupted by businesses certainly do, which is the backstory they went with in the movie, rendering this part of the story timeless.

Still want to read the book, however, mostly because of the mob angle. I mean the Jaws book is basically Jaws meets The Godfather. And I haven't read this yet. What the hell am I waiting for? Why isn't this book like next on my reading list?

Re: Mafia tidbits in non-mafia related books

by aleksandrored » Fri Nov 27, 2020 12:57 pm

The Life and Death of Thelma Todd mentions gangsters like Capone and Luciano.

Re: Mafia tidbits in non-mafia related books

by Wiseguy » Fri Nov 13, 2020 1:30 pm

"Organized crime experts say the Gambinos are less sophisticated than the Genovese family, and less eager to expand their operations outside the New York area." - Brad Dunn, Author - New York: The Unknown City (2004)

Re: Mafia tidbits in non-mafia related books

by SonnyBlackstein » Fri Nov 13, 2020 12:09 pm

@Villan: great story 👍🏻

Re: Mafia tidbits in non-mafia related books

by felice » Fri Nov 13, 2020 10:01 am

jordan belfort, the wolf of wall street used to frequent anthony federici's restaurant, he recalls an episode about his partner asking to federici if he was a mafia boss

Re: Mafia tidbits in non-mafia related books

by Villain » Fri Nov 13, 2020 6:22 am

I keep this piece from years ago and it wasnt taken from some actual book regarding some specific subject, but instead its more like collection of interesting memoirs of one man regarding his personal life and trips around the world during the old days. Larry Ray of Gulfport, Mississippi spent some time in Naples many years ago and enjoyed sharing his memories and so this was one of his stories....

"Great story that brought me back to Napoli and 1959, as a barely nineteen-year-old who had arrived fresh from a year of US Navy electronic and instructor schools for a posting to Naval Air Facility Capodichino. I have told you about my instant fascination with Napoli and making the transition from speaking Spanish to Italian facilitated by my taking a tiny apartment on Cupa Carbone, a stone's throw literally across a wooden fence from the American base which in a fenced off area just down from the Italian civilian airport facilities.

A large gray Mercedes bus shuttled us between the Capodichino air base and Piazza Municipio which was a central hangout with the enlisted Bluebird Club, and all sorts of other bars and even a huge pizzaria on the second floor of a large building on the corner of Via Medina and Piazza Municipio above where the entrance to Monte Dei Paschi di Siena bank is today.

Across the piazza roughly around where via Verdi comes into the piazza from Via Santa Brigida there was the California Bar which attracted lots of American sailors as well as locals. I was having a great time trying to communicate, learning Italian and, unwittingly, mimicking the strong local Neapolitan accent and vernacular. I had developed a friendly repartee with a waiter in the California Bar and he found it a novelty that an American was trying so hard to learn to speak Italian.

One afternoon I stopped in the California Bar and there was just one other person, an older man sitting alone at a table. As I bantered with the barrista, the man at the table smiled and motioned me over. He was nicely dressed, very friendly and he complimented me on my Italian. Really a nice old guy. I asked him how he learned his English so well and he allowed as how he "had lived in the states" and that he always liked meeting "you young fellows stationed here." Sort of like talking to a favorite old uncle.

I saw him a couple of more times and wrote my parents that I had met the nicest interesting old man, an Italian who had lived in the USA, a Mr. Luciano, but everyone called him "Lucky." I got a stern almost screaming letter from my father who told me to stay away from the man and not to talk to him ever again because he was a notorious gangster.

I was sure father had bad information, but after mentioning this to one of the guys who had been stationed there a couple of years he told me that Lucky Luciano did indeed hang out at the California Bar and that he had been deported by the US government and that it was best not to even be seen with him. So I quit going to the California Bar and never saw my friend "Lucky" again.

A few months before I was was discharged, ready to return to Texas and enter the University of Texas, all the newspapers had a photo of a well dressed man sprawled on the pavement at the entrance to Capodichino airport where the US Naval Air Facility was located . . . and, incidentally, just across the fence from Cupa Carbone and not far from my little apartment. In the photo he was being lifted into a plain wooden coffin. Someone had taken what looked like a cushion from a chair inside the airport lobby and thoughtfully placed it under the head and shoulders of the man who had collapsed and died. He was sixty-five years old.

As a gangly kid from Aransas Pass, Texas who knew nothing at all about gangster mobs, or for that matter, not about much of anything at all outside South Texas, it was one of many real life history lessons I got while living in bella Napoli."

Re: Mafia tidbits in non-mafia related books

by Antiliar » Thu Nov 12, 2020 1:40 pm

A lot of autobiographies from early entertainers have tidbits. Helen Hayes mentioned Al Capone calling her. Mae West talks about Ralph Capone. All kinds of info scattered here and there.

Re: Mafia tidbits in non-mafia related books

by Pogo The Clown » Thu Nov 12, 2020 1:21 pm

In fiction.


There is a reference to the 5 families in Jaws. It is revealed in the novel that the reason Mayor Vaughn was so bent on keeping the beaches open despite the threat of the shark was because the 5 families of NY had invested into Amittyville (on Long Island) and we're putting pressure on him to keep them open so as not to hurt their businesses. Thought that was a neat little subplot when I read it.


Pogo

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