THE BLACK HAND FORUM

Tonyd621 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 15, 2020 12:06 pm

SonnyBlackstein wrote: ↑Sun Nov 15, 2020 7:16 am

johnny_scootch wrote: ↑Sun Nov 15, 2020 6:11 am

SonnyBlackstein wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 9:22 pm

johnny_scootch wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:25 pmHe'd be down by Papa Pasquale with Ronnie Mozzarella & Big Mike Viga and that crew, a tough guy but dumb as a box of rocks. He's no big shot...bottom of the barrel type guy.

Could you explain who/what:
A) Papa Pasquale who/is?
B) big mike Vega is?
C) Ronnie mozzarella is?
D) that crew is?

Thanks

A - Papa Pasquale is a store on 15th ave where quite a few wise guys & neighborhood guys hang out.

B - Big Mike is/was Ronnie's partner. I assume he's also a made Bonanno but I'm not 100% certain. I always figured Ronnie sponsored him because he carried himself like a made guy but seems to me if he wasn't made before Ronnie died they'll straighten him out now to keep control of those businesses.

C - Ronnie Mozzarella Carlucci who recently died was a Bonanno soldier & huge earner. Owned Lioni Latticini an extremely successful cheese company whose store fronts are on same block as Papa Pasquale.

D - What I mean by 'that crew' is the guys who hang out on that block. Ronnie was the king over there and he'd have some guys around him that are involved but also plenty of regular neighborhood guys.

Anthony Cigars happened to be one of them who would hang out there pretty often. I never really knew him but I met him a couple times when I stopped by to go to Romeo Brothers which is another store on that block.

Great info. Thanks Johnny

Awesome insight once again. George is the nephew of deceased/suspected informant Carmine Lombardozzi, correct?

SonnyBlackstein wrote: ↑Sun Nov 15, 2020 7:16 am

johnny_scootch wrote: ↑Sun Nov 15, 2020 6:11 am

SonnyBlackstein wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 9:22 pm

johnny_scootch wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:25 pmHe'd be down by Papa Pasquale with Ronnie Mozzarella & Big Mike Viga and that crew, a tough guy but dumb as a box of rocks. He's no big shot...bottom of the barrel type guy.

Could you explain who/what:
A) Papa Pasquale who/is?
B) big mike Vega is?
C) Ronnie mozzarella is?
D) that crew is?

Thanks

A - Papa Pasquale is a store on 15th ave where quite a few wise guys & neighborhood guys hang out.

B - Big Mike is/was Ronnie's partner. I assume he's also a made Bonanno but I'm not 100% certain. I always figured Ronnie sponsored him because he carried himself like a made guy but seems to me if he wasn't made before Ronnie died they'll straighten him out now to keep control of those businesses.

C - Ronnie Mozzarella Carlucci who recently died was a Bonanno soldier & huge earner. Owned Lioni Latticini an extremely successful cheese company whose store fronts are on same block as Papa Pasquale.

D - What I mean by 'that crew' is the guys who hang out on that block. Ronnie was the king over there and he'd have some guys around him that are involved but also plenty of regular neighborhood guys.

Anthony Cigars happened to be one of them who would hang out there pretty often. I never really knew him but I met him a couple times when I stopped by to go to Romeo Brothers which is another store on that block.

Great info. Thanks Johnny

johnny_scootch wrote: ↑Sun Nov 15, 2020 6:11 am

SonnyBlackstein wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 9:22 pm

johnny_scootch wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:25 pmHe'd be down by Papa Pasquale with Ronnie Mozzarella & Big Mike Viga and that crew, a tough guy but dumb as a box of rocks. He's no big shot...bottom of the barrel type guy.

Could you explain who/what:
A) Papa Pasquale who/is?
B) big mike Vega is?
C) Ronnie mozzarella is?
D) that crew is?

Thanks

A - Papa Pasquale is a store on 15th ave where quite a few wise guys & neighborhood guys hang out.

B - Big Mike is/was Ronnie's partner. I assume he's also a made Bonanno but I'm not 100% certain. I always figured Ronnie sponsored him because he carried himself like a made guy but seems to me if he wasn't made before Ronnie died they'll straighten him out now to keep control of those businesses.

C - Ronnie Mozzarella Carlucci who recently died was a Bonanno soldier & huge earner. Owned Lioni Latticini an extremely successful cheese company whose store fronts are on same block as Papa Pasquale.

D - What I mean by 'that crew' is the guys who hang out on that block. Ronnie was the king over there and he'd have some guys around him that are involved but also plenty of regular neighborhood guys.

Anthony Cigars happened to be one of them who would hang out there pretty often. I never really knew him but I met him a couple times when I stopped by to go to Romeo Brothers which is another store on that block.

SonnyBlackstein wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 9:22 pm

johnny_scootch wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:25 pmHe'd be down by Papa Pasquale with Ronnie Mozzarella & Big Mike Viga and that crew, a tough guy but dumb as a box of rocks. He's no big shot...bottom of the barrel type guy.

Could you explain who/what:
A) Papa Pasquale who/is?
B) big mike Vega is?
C) Ronnie mozzarella is?
D) that crew is?

Thanks

SonnyBlackstein wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 9:22 pm

johnny_scootch wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:25 pmHe'd be down by Papa Pasquale with Ronnie Mozzarella & Big Mike Viga and that crew, a tough guy but dumb as a box of rocks. He's no big shot...bottom of the barrel type guy.

Could you explain who/what:
A) Papa Pasquale who/is?
B) big mike Vega is?
C) Ronnie mozzarella is?
D) that crew is?

Thanks

johnny_scootch wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:25 pmHe'd be down by Papa Pasquale with Ronnie Mozzarella & Big Mike Viga and that crew, a tough guy but dumb as a box of rocks. He's no big shot...bottom of the barrel type guy.

johnny_scootch wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:25 pm

Tonyd621 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 5:50 pm

SonnyBlackstein wrote: ↑Thu Nov 12, 2020 11:57 am

slimshady_007 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 12, 2020 11:17 am He could definitely put a lot of guys away if he told.

He could? Please fill us in.


Thanks for the post.

Pandrella’s just praying for some sort of plea he can take. There’s no way he takes this to trial.

Prosecution “Ladies and Gentlemen of the jury, Mr Pandrella is the only person on the security footage entering the house on the day of the murder.”
Defence attorney “Mr Pandrella promises the court he really really didn’t do it.”

Nobody knows nothing about this pandrella guy? Say he can put another of ppl away, but he is labeled an associate, so if true how much he knows may not be much. I did a Google search and could not find anything besides asking me for spelling errors

Tonyd621 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 6:55 pm So he's been an associate since 2002? That's it? So since then he's been committing crimes unimpeded? He was sighted in 2002 meeting with them ands that a we have and a few phone calls? Under the radar is an understatement

They call him Anthony Cigars he's a shylock/bookie who hung out on 15th ave. He'd be down by Papa Pasquale with Ronnie Mozzarella & Big Mike Viga and that crew, a tough guy but dumb as a box of rocks. He's no big shot...bottom of the barrel type guy.

Tonyd621 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 5:50 pm

SonnyBlackstein wrote: ↑Thu Nov 12, 2020 11:57 am

slimshady_007 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 12, 2020 11:17 am He could definitely put a lot of guys away if he told.

He could? Please fill us in.


Thanks for the post.

Pandrella’s just praying for some sort of plea he can take. There’s no way he takes this to trial.

Prosecution “Ladies and Gentlemen of the jury, Mr Pandrella is the only person on the security footage entering the house on the day of the murder.”
Defence attorney “Mr Pandrella promises the court he really really didn’t do it.”

Nobody knows nothing about this pandrella guy? Say he can put another of ppl away, but he is labeled an associate, so if true how much he knows may not be much. I did a Google search and could not find anything besides asking me for spelling errors

Tonyd621 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 6:55 pm So he's been an associate since 2002? That's it? So since then he's been committing crimes unimpeded? He was sighted in 2002 meeting with them ands that a we have and a few phone calls? Under the radar is an understatement

Tonyd621 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 5:50 pm

SonnyBlackstein wrote: ↑Thu Nov 12, 2020 11:57 am

slimshady_007 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 12, 2020 11:17 am He could definitely put a lot of guys away if he told.

He could? Please fill us in.


Thanks for the post.

Pandrella’s just praying for some sort of plea he can take. There’s no way he takes this to trial.

Prosecution “Ladies and Gentlemen of the jury, Mr Pandrella is the only person on the security footage entering the house on the day of the murder.”
Defence attorney “Mr Pandrella promises the court he really really didn’t do it.”

Nobody knows nothing about this pandrella guy? Say he can put another of ppl away, but he is labeled an associate, so if true how much he knows may not be much. I did a Google search and could not find anything besides asking me for spelling errors

According to court documents, Pandrella has been a Gambino crime family associate since as early as 2002, when law enforcement say they first saw him attending meetings with known Gambino family captains Daniel Marino and George Lombardozzi in Manhattan restaurants.

Court documents also indicate that Pandrella was in close contact with Gambino crime family members leading up to the robbery and murder. Telephone records allegedly show that Pandrella spoke with Lombardozzi one hour before the murder, and the two called each other 73 times between Nov. 12, 2018, and Feb. 19, 2019.

SonnyBlackstein wrote: ↑Thu Nov 12, 2020 11:57 am

slimshady_007 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 12, 2020 11:17 am He could definitely put a lot of guys away if he told.

He could? Please fill us in.


Thanks for the post.

Pandrella’s just praying for some sort of plea he can take. There’s no way he takes this to trial.

Prosecution “Ladies and Gentlemen of the jury, Mr Pandrella is the only person on the security footage entering the house on the day of the murder.”
Defence attorney “Mr Pandrella promises the court he really really didn’t do it.”

JohnnyS wrote: ↑Thu Nov 12, 2020 12:26 pm Pandrella spoke to Lombardozzi one hour before the shooting and they called each other 73 times between November 2018 and February 2019. Seems very dumb on Lombardozzi's part if it was sanctioned.

slimshady_007 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 12, 2020 12:13 pmWell he was identified as a Gambino associate way back in 2002 and he knows heavy hitters like Dan Marino and George Lombardozzi.