THE BLACK HAND FORUM

B. wrote: ↑Sat Nov 28, 2020 10:42 pm Not sure how well-known this is, but I hadn't seen it mentioned now that Dellorusso is a big name. It came out in the Asaro trial that Patty Dellorusso was originally a Bonanno associate on record with Vincent Asaro. Asaro later "chased" him which stripped Dellorusso of his formal affiliation with the Bonannos, allowing the Luccheses to put him on record with them and induct him. Dellorusso's father Patty Dellorusso Sr. was also a Bonanno associate on record with Asaro.

Amershire_Ed wrote: ↑Thu Oct 22, 2020 6:23 pm

JohnnyS wrote: ↑Thu Oct 22, 2020 5:48 pm

johnny_scootch wrote: ↑Thu Oct 22, 2020 1:21 pm

JohnnyS wrote: ↑Thu Oct 22, 2020 12:38 pm

SonnyBlackstein wrote: ↑Thu Oct 22, 2020 11:52 am

JohnnyS wrote: ↑Thu Oct 22, 2020 10:29 am Enzo Stagno was made in early 2013 got shot in May of that year and was shelved. His life as a made man was short lived.

Do we know why he was shelved?


They found out about him being a cowboy?

He was questioned over the shooting and told detectives he was made. Not sure why the Lucchese's wanted him dead it was around the time there was a lot of tension between the two families. Seems a bit extreme to try and kill a member.

I thought Terrance Caldwell shot Stagno on behalf of Mike Meldish? He was getting the Bonanno's back for the beating Ernie Aiello gave him.

You're probably right actually. There would've been more drama and fallout if the Lucchese's tried to hit a Bonanno button.

Pennisi says other people in other families looked down on the Lukes for using Caldwell as a shooter because it made it seem like they had no one capable in their family to do the work. I’m not sure how true that it is but it seems plausible.
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Remember though Caldwell even without Londonio was supposedly very close to Meldish ,I think they were close friends it said Meldish used to bring him for cancer treatments . I'm thinking Meldish was very paranoid at the time because of the supposed beef with Madonna,the thing with the girl and Mancuso,,and the beating he took by the bonanno guys. Using Caldwell may have been needed cause he was able to get close to him and meet up with him.

chin_gigante wrote: ↑Thu Oct 22, 2020 12:10 pm In case Pennisi's blog ever does get taken down, here they are archived on the Wayback Machine (let me know if any links don't work):

'Luchese Family Fumble'

https://web.archive.org/web/20201014023 ... .com/?p=36

'A Mob Handbook'

https://web.archive.org/web/20201014094 ... .com/?p=56

'A Tale of A Dead Man, Wiseguys And A Rolex...'

https://web.archive.org/web/20201015042 ... .com/?p=63

'The Gotti Chaperone Ended Up With A Broken Bone'

https://web.archive.org/web/20201022190 ... .com/?p=67

JohnnyS wrote: ↑Thu Oct 22, 2020 8:49 pm It will be interesting to see who the Lucchese's turn to after DeSantis and Dellorusso are indicted.

JohnnyS wrote: ↑Thu Oct 22, 2020 8:49 pm It will be interesting to see who the Lucchese's turn to after DeSantis and Dellorusso are indicted.

bluehouse wrote: ↑Thu Oct 22, 2020 4:05 am Is enzo the baker retarted ?????????????????

Hired_Goonz wrote: ↑Thu Oct 22, 2020 8:49 am Thanks for posting. I don't buy what this Penninsi is selling, he comes off as full of crap to me.

Amershire_Ed wrote: ↑Thu Oct 22, 2020 6:23 pmPennisi says other people in other families looked down on the Lukes for using Caldwell as a shooter because it made it seem like they had no one capable in their family to do the work. I’m not sure how true that it is but it seems plausible.

JohnnyS wrote: ↑Thu Oct 22, 2020 5:48 pm

johnny_scootch wrote: ↑Thu Oct 22, 2020 1:21 pm

JohnnyS wrote: ↑Thu Oct 22, 2020 12:38 pm

SonnyBlackstein wrote: ↑Thu Oct 22, 2020 11:52 am

JohnnyS wrote: ↑Thu Oct 22, 2020 10:29 am Enzo Stagno was made in early 2013 got shot in May of that year and was shelved. His life as a made man was short lived.

Do we know why he was shelved?


They found out about him being a cowboy?

He was questioned over the shooting and told detectives he was made. Not sure why the Lucchese's wanted him dead it was around the time there was a lot of tension between the two families. Seems a bit extreme to try and kill a member.

I thought Terrance Caldwell shot Stagno on behalf of Mike Meldish? He was getting the Bonanno's back for the beating Ernie Aiello gave him.

You're probably right actually. There would've been more drama and fallout if the Lucchese's tried to hit a Bonanno button.

johnny_scootch wrote: ↑Thu Oct 22, 2020 1:21 pm

JohnnyS wrote: ↑Thu Oct 22, 2020 12:38 pm

SonnyBlackstein wrote: ↑Thu Oct 22, 2020 11:52 am

JohnnyS wrote: ↑Thu Oct 22, 2020 10:29 am Enzo Stagno was made in early 2013 got shot in May of that year and was shelved. His life as a made man was short lived.

Do we know why he was shelved?


They found out about him being a cowboy?

He was questioned over the shooting and told detectives he was made. Not sure why the Lucchese's wanted him dead it was around the time there was a lot of tension between the two families. Seems a bit extreme to try and kill a member.

I thought Terrance Caldwell shot Stagno on behalf of Mike Meldish? He was getting the Bonanno's back for the beating Ernie Aiello gave him.