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by **HoagieNose** » Sun Oct 25, 2020 1:56 pm

NJShore4Life wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 10:15 pm
HoagieNose wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 6:19 pm
PHL_Mob wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 2:30 pm Who knows but I'd look at who got made after 2010 and who of those guys was close with Borgesi and Ligambi....
The salvo brothers maybe
David Salvo is literally working his restaurant in the kitchen everyday actually doing the grunt end of cooking and food prep in the kitchen that 99.9% of the restraunts around here farm out to the Mexican cooks/ food preps.

I took my Mother to David’s restaurant Saltwater for Mother’s Day and he was there in the kitchen working his balls off cooking on a Sunday, Mother’s Day. Dave came out from the kitchen on a break and talked to me and my Mother for awhile, nice guy. I don’t know anything at all about the other Salvo brother Christian. Dave is a really great cook that puts hours upon hours into his restaurant.

Saltwater actually finally got a liquor license this summer, which was great. It was BYOB previously.

If any of you guys go there, the gnocchi is to absolutely fucking die for. I heard the pizza is good too but I’ve still never ordered it cuz I always end up gettin the same Gnocchi dish in a blush sauce with Crab, Bangin’! Saltwater is a great restaurant.... End of my rant

Yeah I have been meaning to get there. I follow the place on social media and all the pics look amazing.

In regards to Salvo... I know he’s There full time. And he seems to just be concentrating on his restaurant. But he’s smart. I don’t think he’s ever been pinched and previous to that restaurant, he was involved with the mob most of his adult life. He was a Former Ligambi bodyguard and driver and very close to Borgesi. He Still goes to all the mafia events gatherings.

So he’s either really smart with his involvement or he’s not involved at all and just a restaurant guy associate. But rumors were that he was made about 5 years ago.

by **dack2001** » Sun Oct 25, 2020 6:54 am

Wow that sounds good. When will COVID end??????

by **NJShore4Life** » Sat Oct 24, 2020 10:15 pm

HoagieNose wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 6:19 pm
PHL_Mob wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 2:30 pm Who knows but I'd look at who got made after 2010 and who of those guys was close with Borgesi and Ligambi....
The salvo brothers maybe

David Salvo is literally working his restaurant in the kitchen everyday actually doing the grunt end of cooking and food prep in the kitchen that 99.9% of the restraunts around here farm out to the Mexican cooks/ food preps.

I took my Mother to David’s restaurant Saltwater for Mother’s Day and he was there in the kitchen working his balls off cooking on a Sunday, Mother’s Day. Dave came out from the kitchen on a break and talked to me and my Mother for awhile, nice guy. I don’t know anything at all about the other Salvo brother Christian. Dave is a really great cook that puts hours upon hours into his restaurant.

Saltwater actually finally got a liquor license this summer, which was great. It was BYOB previously.

If any of you guys go there, the gnocchi is to absolutely fucking die for. I heard the pizza is good too but I’ve still never ordered it cuz I always end up gettin the same Gnocchi dish in a blush sauce with Crab, Bangin’! Saltwater is a great restaurant.... End of my rant

by **chubby** » Sat Oct 24, 2020 7:49 pm

HoagieNose wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 3:42 pm
chin_gigante wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 1:14 pm I'm still quite conservative about sceptical when it comes to the Maniscalco murder and seeing that Anastasia leans more on the side of it not coming from the mob that's the way I'd fall too right now.
Wasn’t Borgesi (from prison) trying to shake down Maniscalco. I wouldn’t put anything past that lunatic Borgesi. I would lean mafia related. Most people were paying up to the mob and this stubborn guy just refused. Very disrespectful.

Yeah Georgie was leaning on him from prison... if you ask me the Rocco hit was 100 percent mob related... like other people were saying... if some drug dealers beat him on a large bet, you would just eat it... yeah it sucks but just taking it on the chin would have stopped any bad blood for any of those guys to clip him... bookies get beat all the time.. and almost never worth it to make it a big issue, you just cut them off and don’t take their action anymore... also whoever did it had good inside info, or were keeping close tabs on him.. cause his wife said he wore a vest literally everyday for months.. then when it got warm outside he got tired of it and basically said if they get me, then they get me.. and literally not very long after that he gets shot in the back a bunch of times???? And the hit was flawless... there’s 0 leads leading to description of the shooter/shooters, no info on a getaway car... literally nothing.... I think it had to be mob guys sending a message to any other bookmakers or guys doing shit on their making them think twice when it comes to kicking up...

by **HoagieNose** » Sat Oct 24, 2020 6:19 pm

PHL_Mob wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 2:30 pm Who knows but I'd look at who got made after 2010 and who of those guys was close with Borgesi and Ligambi....

The salvo brothers maybe

by **NJShore4Life** » Sat Oct 24, 2020 4:38 pm

Another example of the Philly guys fucking with auto body shops is that Ronnie the Wig allegedly put the holes in the van at his auto body shop that the Merlino guys used when they shot up Stanfa and his son in the 1990s on the highway during rush hour commute.

by **NJShore4Life** » Sat Oct 24, 2020 4:32 pm

No way drug dealing gang banging shines pulled off that Maniacalco hit in that neighborhood. I tend to agree it was the Philly guys. The Philly guys have always also been big into auto collision shop scams as well. Not pointing any fingers but for example both Borgesi brothers got their start working with auto body shops (not saying they did it just giving examples of Philly guys who were in auto body shops). You also have that clown Ronnie the Wig and his auto body shop. I’ve also heard Maniscalco had a big Sportsbook and loanshark operation as well as auto collision scams.

by **PHL_Mob** » Sat Oct 24, 2020 2:30 pm

Who knows but I'd look at who got made after 2010 and who of those guys was close with Borgesi and Ligambi....

by **HoagieNose** » Sat Oct 24, 2020 11:22 am

PHL_Mob wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 8:46 am I agree Tommy Hill murder wasn't coming from downtown. He didn't say anything on joey or those guys. Maniscalco on the other hand was mafia. If you think a small gang of drug dealers (they were from 23rd street) who was killing him because of a drug debt then that's crazy. He was getting bet into because he wasn't paying protection to Georgie and them. They finally killed him when they lost and he still wouldn't pay. If Maniscalco thought he was going to get killed over some random gambler not paying a debt and was wearing a kevlar vest around because of it then don't you think he'd just cut bait and tell them to forget the debt and move on and just stop taking their action. Hit was professional, smart and well thought out. Rocco had a big operation and it was right in their backyard in south philly. On top of the book and shy he had all kinda stuff going on in his garage tow truck scams and he insurance scams. Phil Sessa was one of his main guys... He's paying now after what happened to Rocco!!

Totally agree. Had to be a mob hit. I wonder what soldier carried that out

by **NJShore4Life** » Sat Oct 24, 2020 9:19 am

Phil Sessa, yes hes from the Atlantic City Area.

State Police busted Phil Sessa right after Rocco got hit. Probably a squeeze tactic to get info. LOL Guy had Steroids hidden in Christmas Stockings.

https://www.inquirer.com/philly/hp/news ... fraud.html

by **PHL_Mob** » Sat Oct 24, 2020 8:46 am

I agree Tommy Hill murder wasn't coming from downtown. He didn't say anything on joey or those guys. Maniscalco on the other hand was mafia. If you think a small gang of drug dealers (they were from 23rd street) who was killing him because of a drug debt then that's crazy. He was getting bet into because he wasn't paying protection to Georgie and them. They finally killed him when they lost and he still wouldn't pay. If Maniscalco thought he was going to get killed over some random gambler not paying a debt and was wearing a kevlar vest around because of it then don't you think he'd just cut bait and tell them to forget the debt and move on and just stop taking their action. Hit was professional, smart and well thought out. Rocco had a big operation and it was right in their backyard in south philly. On top of the book and shy he had all kinda stuff going on in his garage tow truck scams and he insurance scams. Phil Sessa was one of his main guys... He's paying now after what happened to Rocco!!

by **Jasonsp** » Sat Oct 24, 2020 6:03 am

I used to in queen village, that neighborhood changed drastically since 2002. I feel bad for George’s kid he got a raw deal.

by **HoagieNose** » Fri Oct 23, 2020 3:42 pm

chin_gigante wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 1:14 pm I'm still quite conservative about sceptical when it comes to the Maniscalco murder and seeing that Anastasia leans more on the side of it not coming from the mob that's the way I'd fall too right now.

Wasn’t Borgesi (from prison) trying to shake down Maniscalco. I wouldn’t put anything past that lunatic Borgesi. I would lean mafia related. Most people were paying up to the mob and this stubborn guy just refused. Very disrespectful.

by **chin_gigante** » Fri Oct 23, 2020 1:14 pm

I'm still quite conservative about sceptical when it comes to the Maniscalco murder and seeing that Anastasia leans more on the side of it not coming from the mob that's the way I'd fall too right now.

by **HoagieNose** » Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:26 am

chin_gigante wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:24 am I haven't seen anything before to suggest that Tommy Hill's shooting was mob related

Me neither. It wasn’t. It was a typical black on black
Murder. Not mob related.

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