THE BLACK HAND FORUM

Nick Prango wrote: ↑Wed Dec 30, 2020 4:15 pm

Wiseguy wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 10:10 pm

Grouchy Sinatra wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 6:27 pm I doubt there are drug dealers anywhere kicking up to the Italian mob anymore. Definitely NO ONE in Cali. If any Italian wiseguy approached someone out here and tried to shake him down he would get laughed at...at best.

There's nobody in California to collect anyway. New York/New Jersey will be about the only place that will still take place and it will be in those neighborhoods where the mob has a significant enough presence.

What about Philadelphia? LCN has a significant enough presence there. What do you think?

Wiseguy wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 10:10 pm

Grouchy Sinatra wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 6:27 pm I doubt there are drug dealers anywhere kicking up to the Italian mob anymore. Definitely NO ONE in Cali. If any Italian wiseguy approached someone out here and tried to shake him down he would get laughed at...at best.

There's nobody in California to collect anyway. New York/New Jersey will be about the only place that will still take place and it will be in those neighborhoods where the mob has a significant enough presence.

B. wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 2:47 am

JeremyTheJew wrote: ↑Sun Sep 20, 2020 9:14 pm Can anyone go over STL hist at there height??

I know there was a BMF sister group in STL but obviously different ....

Giordano Family right??

And Egan's rats

Not necessarily their "height", as we don't have inside sources from that time, but this covers them in the late 1960s and we go into some other historical discussion:

viewtopic.php?f=29&t=4109

PolackTony wrote: ↑Fri Sep 18, 2020 1:18 pm This doesn't relate to current/recent STL. But I wonder if ahyone knows if the STL Giordanos had any family links to Chicago Heights. There was a Chris Giordano in the 30's that was part of the remaining Sicilian faction in the Heights with the Castelli and DiGiovanni Bros. Would be interesting to know if he had any connections to Tony Giordano, even if just from back in the old country.

Maybe if he was from Terrasini, but Giordano is a common name all around. The St. Louis Giordanos/Giardanos were from Detroit and connected to the Detroit family via their heritage. One source said the Giordano brothers were related to the Detroit leadership.

JeremyTheJew wrote: ↑Sun Sep 20, 2020 9:14 pm Can anyone go over STL hist at there height??

I know there was a BMF sister group in STL but obviously different ....

Giordano Family right??

And Egan's rats

PolackTony wrote: ↑Fri Sep 18, 2020 1:18 pm This doesn't relate to current/recent STL. But I wonder if ahyone knows if the STL Giordanos had any family links to Chicago Heights. There was a Chris Giordano in the 30's that was part of the remaining Sicilian faction in the Heights with the Castelli and DiGiovanni Bros. Would be interesting to know if he had any connections to Tony Giordano, even if just from back in the old country.

Grouchy Sinatra wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 6:27 pm I doubt there are drug dealers anywhere kicking up to the Italian mob anymore. Definitely NO ONE in Cali. If any Italian wiseguy approached someone out here and tried to shake him down he would get laughed at...at best.

Timmoffat wrote: ↑Fri Sep 18, 2020 7:01 pm I know the outfit in 2020 is associate heavy with few made guys under 65-70 years old, but does what’s left have any action or reach in St. Louis and KC in 2020? I agree StL is most likely dead, seems like KC has a little more going on with remnants and members still around but what if any impact does the outfit have on these midwestern city’s aside from Chicago? Anything or pretty much nothing? Nothing seems more likely but the post above got me wondering that maybe since the outfit still has a fair number of associates maybe there’s hooks in here and there.

Grouchy Sinatra wrote: ↑Sun Sep 20, 2020 12:16 pm

Moscone65 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 18, 2020 11:01 am alot of blacks are known to hang out there and im sure they give the owners a cut to operate there.

stubbs wrote: ↑Fri Sep 18, 2020 7:00 am

joerock wrote: ↑Fri Sep 18, 2020 6:26 am Any opinions on the current state of this family? Is there a hierarchy? How many soldiers and associates etc

Deader than pro football in St Louis.

Moscone65 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 18, 2020 11:01 am Descendants of the st louis old timers own alot of nightclubs and other businesses in the st louis area nowadays. Probably some shady shit going down there at these nightclubs, alot of blacks are known to hang out there and im sure they give the owners a cut to operate there. Some gambling and loansharking im sure still go on, but its a pretty low key operation with mostly of legitimate business (with some side stuff).