by MSFRD » Tue Sep 15, 2020 11:55 am
Lou_Para wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 9:11 am
MSFRD, Thanks for the info on the Aussie Bikie scene.
I've always been fascinated by the differences between them and the US Biker world.
BTW, any info on the Finks? Last I heard,many of them Patched over to other 1%er Clubs.
If so,are any members left,or is the Club pretty much disbanded ?
FWIW,I always thought they had the coolest Center Patch of any Club.
No worries man.
The Finks a few years back I think around 2014-15 patched over to the U.S based Mongols. Finks were founded in Adelaide, South Australia, but were prominent in The states of New South Wales and Queensland. Definitely one of the smaller clubs but very violent and independent.
To affirm what I stated above about the fluidity of membership including prominent leaders, in 2006 in the Queensland city of the Gold Coast, a prominent member of the Fink’s defected to the Hell’s Angels, leading to an incredible fight at a Kickboxing tournament. He was shot amongst others, and there were many knifings and the event which was held at a popular government convention center was left in ruin.
This was probably the first image in a while that broadcast to the public the new-age bikie world. The long hair, unkempt look and jailhouse tattoo looking bloke who liked to ride, had been replaced by clean-shaven, manicured men who spent most of their time in the gym, getting designer tattoos and going to nightclubs. They call them ‘Nike Bikies’. Think designer clothes and sunglasses and fast cars. Basically flashy gangsters than bikies. Many are recruited from kickboxing and martial-arts clubs.
The Fink’s although smaller, but very violent, resisted the push by the Angel’s to patch over and asserted their independence. Flash forward ten years and the Fink’s patch over to the U.S based Mongol’s. The Mongol’s have the long standing feud in California with the Angel’s right? So the resistance to any Angel’s encroachment was pointless.
Some members of the Mongol’s, but a small proportion have gone back to wearing the Fink’s patch, but it is a small minority. I think from what I’ve read they are back in the Gold Coast scene most prominently, where they have always been one of the top two clubs in the last couple decades. Mongol’s are the the group with the most publicity and growth the last few years. The president of the Victorian chapter is the former Bandido Sergeant at arms.
Now, to reiterate what I said about fluidity, the man who shot the Fink’s defector to the Angel’s is now the national-president of the Mongol’s. He was released from a Victorian country jail last month or in July, after a five year bid to media fanfare. Fifteen days later in a Melbourne suburb, he was shot and has fled to Queensland where he is originally from; where he shot the defector to the Angel’s years before.
Now this is the national-president. Internecine warfare amongst bikies is nothing new or unique. But the cultural-change within the bikie world, and the almost constant change in affiliations is new. It is causing a lot of violence, and spilling over into the mainstream criminal world and into the public. Years ago, when I was a child and before my time, the bikie world was insular, nomadic and hard to see. If you lived in the countryside you may have seen a few here or there on their motorcycles or in a country-pub where they would congregate.
I brought this up because from this threads focus on loyalty, brotherhood and the character of the US bikers seem at odds with what has been going on down here. Yes they are violent, no they are not cowards in a gang but they are fractious and unstable criminals whose loyalties switch more often than not. I can’t imagine a US based Angel becoming an Outlaw or a Pagan becoming a Bandido.
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MSFRD, Thanks for the info on the Aussie Bikie scene.
I've always been fascinated by the differences between them and the US Biker world.
BTW, any info on the Finks? Last I heard,many of them Patched over to other 1%er Clubs.
If so,are any members left,or is the Club pretty much disbanded ?
FWIW,I always thought they had the coolest Center Patch of any Club.
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No worries man.
The Finks a few years back I think around 2014-15 patched over to the U.S based Mongols. Finks were founded in Adelaide, South Australia, but were prominent in The states of New South Wales and Queensland. Definitely one of the smaller clubs but very violent and independent.
To affirm what I stated above about the fluidity of membership including prominent leaders, in 2006 in the Queensland city of the Gold Coast, a prominent member of the Fink’s defected to the Hell’s Angels, leading to an incredible fight at a Kickboxing tournament. He was shot amongst others, and there were many knifings and the event which was held at a popular government convention center was left in ruin.
This was probably the first image in a while that broadcast to the public the new-age bikie world. The long hair, unkempt look and jailhouse tattoo looking bloke who liked to ride, had been replaced by clean-shaven, manicured men who spent most of their time in the gym, getting designer tattoos and going to nightclubs. They call them ‘Nike Bikies’. Think designer clothes and sunglasses and fast cars. Basically flashy gangsters than bikies. Many are recruited from kickboxing and martial-arts clubs.
The Fink’s although smaller, but very violent, resisted the push by the Angel’s to patch over and asserted their independence. Flash forward ten years and the Fink’s patch over to the U.S based Mongol’s. The Mongol’s have the long standing feud in California with the Angel’s right? So the resistance to any Angel’s encroachment was pointless.
Some members of the Mongol’s, but a small proportion have gone back to wearing the Fink’s patch, but it is a small minority. I think from what I’ve read they are back in the Gold Coast scene most prominently, where they have always been one of the top two clubs in the last couple decades. Mongol’s are the the group with the most publicity and growth the last few years. The president of the Victorian chapter is the former Bandido Sergeant at arms.
Now, to reiterate what I said about fluidity, the man who shot the Fink’s defector to the Angel’s is now the national-president of the Mongol’s. He was released from a Victorian country jail last month or in July, after a five year bid to media fanfare. Fifteen days later in a Melbourne suburb, he was shot and has fled to Queensland where he is originally from; where he shot the defector to the Angel’s years before.
Now this is the national-president. Internecine warfare amongst bikies is nothing new or unique. But the cultural-change within the bikie world, and the almost constant change in affiliations is new. It is causing a lot of violence, and spilling over into the mainstream criminal world and into the public. Years ago, when I was a child and before my time, the bikie world was insular, nomadic and hard to see. If you lived in the countryside you may have seen a few here or there on their motorcycles or in a country-pub where they would congregate.
I brought this up because from this threads focus on loyalty, brotherhood and the character of the US bikers seem at odds with what has been going on down here. Yes they are violent, no they are not cowards in a gang but they are fractious and unstable criminals whose loyalties switch more often than not. I can’t imagine a US based Angel becoming an Outlaw or a Pagan becoming a Bandido.