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Re: New Vito Genovese book

by Super » Tue Sep 15, 2020 1:06 pm

Any one have info on a book written about the gigante brothers that was never released ?

Re: New Vito Genovese book

by B. » Tue Sep 15, 2020 12:51 pm

Manhattan_ wrote: Sun Sep 13, 2020 5:57 am Still trying to find out the real name of “Chegusae” !
Many years ago on the Real Deal someone shared a transcript of Valachi's testimony where the transcriber interpreted the name phonetically as "Sheik" instead of the usual "Chee Gusae/Gusage". Maybe someone can find the same testimony transcript -- the person posted a screencap of it, if I remember right.

It led me to try and find info on Tony "the Sheik" Carillo's father, as we know sometimes younger relatives carry the same nickname. His father's name was Domenico but I couldn't confirm if he ever entered the US. I did find a Domenico Carillo whose daughter married a man with a surname written as "Gusatans", which caught my eye obviously haha but it wasn't Tony's father and just a coincidence.

"Sheik" could be as much of a phonetic misinterpretation as "Chee Gusae/Gusage", but that one transcriber heard it that way at least tells us that the first sound could be a "Sh-" not necessarily a 'Ch-" and that the second syllable or last name starts with a hard "G" or "K" sound opposed to a soft "G" (i.e. a "J" sound). It's also nice to have another lead that's not the usual "Francesco Gusae/Gusage" dead end.

Just for comparison, the FBI transcribed Stefano Magaddino's recorded reference to Vincenzo Asaro as "Vincenzo Uase". So Valachi's butchered memory of an Italian name could have been equally off-base (I mention this because "Uase" brings to mind "Gusae").

We shouldn't assume Valachi was necessarily correct on "Chee Gusae's" DOD, either. He says Buster Domingo was killed soon after Maranzano in 1931, but Domingo wasn't killed until 1933. Given that wasn't long before "Gusae" was the Genovese acting boss, Valachi could have made a similar mistake with the DOD of "Gusae".

Re: New Vito Genovese book

by aleksandrored » Tue Sep 15, 2020 12:44 pm

nor do they know the right date anymore :lol: , let's hope to launch in November.

Re: New Vito Genovese book

by johnny_scootch » Tue Sep 15, 2020 8:59 am

aleksandrored wrote: Tue Sep 15, 2020 8:34 am
johnny_scootch wrote: Thu Sep 10, 2020 5:46 pm
johnny_scootch wrote: Tue Sep 08, 2020 12:57 pm
aleksandrored wrote: Tue Sep 08, 2020 8:19 am
johnny_scootch wrote: Sat Sep 05, 2020 5:24 am
aleksandrored wrote: Fri Sep 04, 2020 7:11 pm it looks interesting, next year there will be some interesting books like this and the Decavalcante family.
The DeCavalcante book 'Giovanni's Ring' will be out this November.
returned with the old date? how great, when i saw it had been postponed to february 2021, i'm glad they put it out to launch that year.
Yeah I got the email a couple weeks ago they returned it to the old date. Looking forward to it.
So 9 days after emailing me to tell me the book would be shipped on Nov 9th they email me to tell me it's pushed back to it's original pushed back date of Feb 2. Smh
What a mess, why did they change the date again?
A mess is right! Now I’m not sure if it’s a glitch in the system and I wasn’t going to post about it but I swear to god I got another email yesterday morning that the book will be released Nov 10!
So that’s the fourth time I’ve gotten an email about the release date switching.

Re: New Vito Genovese book

by aleksandrored » Tue Sep 15, 2020 8:34 am

johnny_scootch wrote: Thu Sep 10, 2020 5:46 pm
johnny_scootch wrote: Tue Sep 08, 2020 12:57 pm
aleksandrored wrote: Tue Sep 08, 2020 8:19 am
johnny_scootch wrote: Sat Sep 05, 2020 5:24 am
aleksandrored wrote: Fri Sep 04, 2020 7:11 pm it looks interesting, next year there will be some interesting books like this and the Decavalcante family.
The DeCavalcante book 'Giovanni's Ring' will be out this November.
returned with the old date? how great, when i saw it had been postponed to february 2021, i'm glad they put it out to launch that year.
Yeah I got the email a couple weeks ago they returned it to the old date. Looking forward to it.
So 9 days after emailing me to tell me the book would be shipped on Nov 9th they email me to tell me it's pushed back to it's original pushed back date of Feb 2. Smh
What a mess, why did they change the date again?

Re: New Vito Genovese book

by Manhattan_ » Sun Sep 13, 2020 5:57 am

Still trying to find out the real name of “Chegusae” !

Re: New Vito Genovese book

by B. » Sun Sep 13, 2020 1:39 am

Hopefully Giovanni's Ring clears up and confirms some of the leaders identified only by nicknames. While "Milk" is surely Joe "Milk" Merlo Jr., would be great to get confirmation on "Horse" and "Big Head".

Re: New Vito Genovese book

by johnny_scootch » Thu Sep 10, 2020 5:46 pm

johnny_scootch wrote: Tue Sep 08, 2020 12:57 pm
aleksandrored wrote: Tue Sep 08, 2020 8:19 am
johnny_scootch wrote: Sat Sep 05, 2020 5:24 am
aleksandrored wrote: Fri Sep 04, 2020 7:11 pm it looks interesting, next year there will be some interesting books like this and the Decavalcante family.
The DeCavalcante book 'Giovanni's Ring' will be out this November.
returned with the old date? how great, when i saw it had been postponed to february 2021, i'm glad they put it out to launch that year.
Yeah I got the email a couple weeks ago they returned it to the old date. Looking forward to it.
So 9 days after emailing me to tell me the book would be shipped on Nov 9th they email me to tell me it's pushed back to it's original pushed back date of Feb 2. Smh

Re: New Vito Genovese book

by Flushing » Tue Sep 08, 2020 4:19 pm

Honestly I get more info from 'deep dives' into this site than many of these books.

Still I read all of them, and I will get both the DeCav book and the Genovese book. (Distefano wrote about a murder that Basciano committed in Queens on Francis Lewis Blvd that is still a mystery, or a myth)

Re: New Vito Genovese book

by johnny_scootch » Tue Sep 08, 2020 12:57 pm

aleksandrored wrote: Tue Sep 08, 2020 8:19 am
johnny_scootch wrote: Sat Sep 05, 2020 5:24 am
aleksandrored wrote: Fri Sep 04, 2020 7:11 pm it looks interesting, next year there will be some interesting books like this and the Decavalcante family.
The DeCavalcante book 'Giovanni's Ring' will be out this November.
returned with the old date? how great, when i saw it had been postponed to february 2021, i'm glad they put it out to launch that year.
Yeah I got the email a couple weeks ago they returned it to the old date. Looking forward to it.

Re: New Vito Genovese book

by aleksandrored » Tue Sep 08, 2020 8:19 am

johnny_scootch wrote: Sat Sep 05, 2020 5:24 am
aleksandrored wrote: Fri Sep 04, 2020 7:11 pm it looks interesting, next year there will be some interesting books like this and the Decavalcante family.
The DeCavalcante book 'Giovanni's Ring' will be out this November.
returned with the old date? how great, when i saw it had been postponed to february 2021, i'm glad they put it out to launch that year.

Re: New Vito Genovese book

by SonnyBlackstein » Sat Sep 05, 2020 11:58 am

dack2001 wrote: Sat Sep 05, 2020 6:49 am I read Gotti's boys. Some interesting stuff on Salvatore and Angelo Ruggierro and the Bergin crew. Not a ton new but quick and interesting read.
Cheers. 🤘🏻

Re: New Vito Genovese book

by Pmac2 » Sat Sep 05, 2020 11:12 am

I like all the books he wrote. The one about Massimo the last don was great.

Re: New Vito Genovese book

by dack2001 » Sat Sep 05, 2020 6:57 am

See George Anastasia's got a new book coming out about the doctor in bed with the Pagans that killed himself. He was represented by Eddie Jacobs.

Re: New Vito Genovese book

by dack2001 » Sat Sep 05, 2020 6:49 am

I read Gotti's boys. Some interesting stuff on Salvatore and Angelo Ruggierro and the Bergin crew. Not a ton new but quick and interesting read.

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