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by B. » Wed Mar 17, 2021 2:55 pm
by NickleCity » Wed Mar 17, 2021 9:29 am
B. wrote: ↑Sun Aug 09, 2020 6:41 pm Costigan wrote: ↑Sun Aug 09, 2020 6:24 pm johnny_scootch wrote: ↑Sun Aug 09, 2020 6:07 pm This situation reminds me of a guy that was from Montreal but moved out to LA where he owned a very successful car dealership and he was made by the LA family. If I remember correctly he was almost totally legitimate and after being made he was looking for someone to go back to Montreal with him and introduce him around to all the guys he knew out there as a made guy. This is all from The Last Mafioso, I can't seem to recall the name and I don't have access to the book because I'm not at home. So if this Canadian Iavarone was really made in LA he wouldn't be the first. Dominic Longo, who owned a Toyota dealership. I was in LA on business a few times in the 1990's & was surprised to see the logo "Longo Toyota" on cars even then. Those Longos are connected to the Buffalo family actually and are from Hamilton. Stefano Magaddino was recorded discussing them on his office tapes. We talked about them on here a couple years ago here: viewtopic.php?f=29&t=3340&p=71636 Some of the details still need to be sorted out, but it appears Dominick Longo was associated with John Papalia in Ontario. I had no idea Fratianno talked about Dominick Longo. He said he was made into the LA family? A couple people in that old thread even said he was an LA member.
Costigan wrote: ↑Sun Aug 09, 2020 6:24 pm johnny_scootch wrote: ↑Sun Aug 09, 2020 6:07 pm This situation reminds me of a guy that was from Montreal but moved out to LA where he owned a very successful car dealership and he was made by the LA family. If I remember correctly he was almost totally legitimate and after being made he was looking for someone to go back to Montreal with him and introduce him around to all the guys he knew out there as a made guy. This is all from The Last Mafioso, I can't seem to recall the name and I don't have access to the book because I'm not at home. So if this Canadian Iavarone was really made in LA he wouldn't be the first. Dominic Longo, who owned a Toyota dealership. I was in LA on business a few times in the 1990's & was surprised to see the logo "Longo Toyota" on cars even then.
johnny_scootch wrote: ↑Sun Aug 09, 2020 6:07 pm This situation reminds me of a guy that was from Montreal but moved out to LA where he owned a very successful car dealership and he was made by the LA family. If I remember correctly he was almost totally legitimate and after being made he was looking for someone to go back to Montreal with him and introduce him around to all the guys he knew out there as a made guy. This is all from The Last Mafioso, I can't seem to recall the name and I don't have access to the book because I'm not at home. So if this Canadian Iavarone was really made in LA he wouldn't be the first.
by JVerilla » Mon Dec 28, 2020 11:17 pm
by Stroccos » Sun Aug 16, 2020 5:16 pm
Grouchy Sinatra wrote: ↑Fri Aug 14, 2020 9:13 pm Pretty easy to find out if the mob exists in any particular location, or who the mob is there. Just start a sports book.
by B. » Fri Aug 14, 2020 11:35 pm
by Patrickgold » Fri Aug 14, 2020 11:30 pm
by B. » Fri Aug 14, 2020 10:56 pm
by Wiseguy » Fri Aug 14, 2020 10:04 pm
Pogo The Clown wrote: ↑Fri Aug 14, 2020 9:42 pm Wiseguy wrote: ↑Fri Aug 14, 2020 9:25 pm It was but you have to go back 40 years to find it. 1980 FBI List Boston-Providence Buffalo Chicago Cleveland Detroit Los Angeles New York (5) New Orleans Philadelphia San Francisco San Jose Denver-Pueblo (inactive) Kansas City Pittsburgh St. Louis Pittston-Scranton-Wilkes Barre Tucson Rockford Madison Elizabeth-Newark Springfield, IL (inactive) Tampa Good find. Some interesting things. -They list Springfeild as inactive but don't bother to list Dallas. Madison was listed (not as inactive) even though they had in their files that it had disbanded several years before. -They didn't list Rochester even though the Feds were all over them at the time. Maybe just an oversight when compiling the list. -They list Denver-Pueblo as inactive in 1980 but continue to recognize them in 1987 and 1992. Though they did bring a case against the Denver leaders in 1984 so maybe that led to their change in status. Pogo
Wiseguy wrote: ↑Fri Aug 14, 2020 9:25 pm It was but you have to go back 40 years to find it. 1980 FBI List Boston-Providence Buffalo Chicago Cleveland Detroit Los Angeles New York (5) New Orleans Philadelphia San Francisco San Jose Denver-Pueblo (inactive) Kansas City Pittsburgh St. Louis Pittston-Scranton-Wilkes Barre Tucson Rockford Madison Elizabeth-Newark Springfield, IL (inactive) Tampa
by Wiseguy » Fri Aug 14, 2020 9:42 pm
cavita wrote: ↑Fri Aug 14, 2020 9:39 pm So in 1980 the FBI listed Madison as a viable family when their files from 1973 had information that they disbanded. This is what I find confusing about FBI information- some things are not clear.
by Pogo The Clown » Fri Aug 14, 2020 9:42 pm
by cavita » Fri Aug 14, 2020 9:39 pm
by Wiseguy » Fri Aug 14, 2020 9:25 pm
Patrickgold wrote: ↑Fri Aug 14, 2020 9:12 pmI don’t know if Rockford was ever mentioned as one of the 24 families. The feds and other law enforcement seemed to have a difficult time of distinguishing them from being their own family or being part of the Outfit.
by Grouchy Sinatra » Fri Aug 14, 2020 9:13 pm
by Patrickgold » Fri Aug 14, 2020 9:12 pm
Wiseguy wrote: ↑Fri Aug 14, 2020 7:48 pm Patrickgold wrote: ↑Thu Aug 13, 2020 8:17 pmDo you think there anything wrong with your life that for the past 20 years you have been on forums arguing about which families are active? And no, I was not a part of those forums but to hear you and the clown say that is entertaining. Your a broken record. You talk about indictments and you had multiple indictments in Buffalo in the last 3 years and you still deny it. I have never been to Buffalo and I know absolutely nothing about Buffalo but the limited articles from indictments and experts that I have read and the UNDERBOSS stating they are still active gives no doubt that they are active. But guess since for the past 20 years (pathetic life) you have been arguing it you mine as well keep the course instead of being a man and admitting your wrong. Rockford you have not layed out any facts or fbi reports, since that is the only thing that you cite Bc you know absolutely NOTHING about Rockford except that is a small city that nobody knows about. ad-hominem_orig.jpg Patrickgold wrote: ↑Thu Aug 13, 2020 10:06 pmYour right, it sure sounds like that. If they didn’t have documented LCN members/associates in this indictment like Saladino and Frisella then I would even say it was not connected. Bc I will be honest. The younger guys in the indictment, I never heard of them. Rockford has always been a mystery, I think even to the feds. I really don’t think they took them seriously and that is why they have thrived for so long with hardly any indictments. The FBI has barely talked about them. I think it has more to do with there being bigger fish to fry in Chicago, which is only 90 miles away. When was the last time the FBI mentioned most of the formerly 24 families in the country? With many it's been years, if not decades, since the feds had any reason to say anything about them. Rockford died from the #1 killer of mob families - attrition.
Patrickgold wrote: ↑Thu Aug 13, 2020 8:17 pmDo you think there anything wrong with your life that for the past 20 years you have been on forums arguing about which families are active? And no, I was not a part of those forums but to hear you and the clown say that is entertaining. Your a broken record. You talk about indictments and you had multiple indictments in Buffalo in the last 3 years and you still deny it. I have never been to Buffalo and I know absolutely nothing about Buffalo but the limited articles from indictments and experts that I have read and the UNDERBOSS stating they are still active gives no doubt that they are active. But guess since for the past 20 years (pathetic life) you have been arguing it you mine as well keep the course instead of being a man and admitting your wrong. Rockford you have not layed out any facts or fbi reports, since that is the only thing that you cite Bc you know absolutely NOTHING about Rockford except that is a small city that nobody knows about.
Patrickgold wrote: ↑Thu Aug 13, 2020 10:06 pmYour right, it sure sounds like that. If they didn’t have documented LCN members/associates in this indictment like Saladino and Frisella then I would even say it was not connected. Bc I will be honest. The younger guys in the indictment, I never heard of them. Rockford has always been a mystery, I think even to the feds. I really don’t think they took them seriously and that is why they have thrived for so long with hardly any indictments. The FBI has barely talked about them. I think it has more to do with there being bigger fish to fry in Chicago, which is only 90 miles away.
by Wiseguy » Fri Aug 14, 2020 7:48 pm
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