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Re: Goodfellas And The Sopranos Writers Team Up For New Mafia Series

by JCB1977 » Mon Aug 10, 2020 3:23 am

The way I read the article, this will be about the early origins of OC. I'm still waiting for the Petrosino movie with DiCaprio.

Re: Goodfellas And The Sopranos Writers Team Up For New Mafia Series

by Pogo The Clown » Fri Aug 07, 2020 9:24 am

Adam wrote: ↑Fri Aug 07, 2020 5:27 am
Chris Christie wrote: ↑Fri Aug 07, 2020 5:00 am
Adam wrote: ↑Fri Aug 07, 2020 4:47 am And maybe it's early and I'm in a bad mood but Roemer is awful. If there had been a Chicago mob war I would bet everything I own that Roemer would give his informants information to kill the opposition. And the shit he took credit for and claimed?....Jesus Christ.
Agreed. He came off as a pompous, self-righteous arrogant asshole. Informants "have seen the light and decided to join the right side" and "finally convincing Mexico to deport a retired Giancana" was a cause for celebration. His infatuation with Accardo bordered on the erotic.

In The Enforcer he thought he was breaking balls by showing up at Chicago guy's houses, Mad Sam (?) always welcomed him and served him coffee, come to find out later Sam was pissing in it. Atta boy, Sam!
My favorite was him trying to say his work in Arizona against Bonanno was him taking it to the mafia by going after a commission member. For the record, a retired banished commission member. He did oddly never mention the FBI agent who was trying to start a mob war by having people plant bombs at old wiseguy places in Aruzona. Weird. Roemer was working there then.

In fairness Bonanno wasn't really retired. In fact the FBI had Bonanno and his Arizona Crew as their own family during a time.


I still love WOTG. I thought it was a really fun read. :mrgreen:


Pogo

Re: Goodfellas And The Sopranos Writers Team Up For New Mafia Series

by PolackTony » Fri Aug 07, 2020 8:53 am

Chris Christie wrote: ↑Fri Aug 07, 2020 5:00 am
Adam wrote: ↑Fri Aug 07, 2020 4:47 am And maybe it's early and I'm in a bad mood but Roemer is awful. If there had been a Chicago mob war I would bet everything I own that Roemer would give his informants information to kill the opposition. And the shit he took credit for and claimed?....Jesus Christ.
Agreed. He came off as a pompous, self-righteous arrogant asshole. Informants "have seen the light and decided to join the right side" and "finally convincing Mexico to deport a retired Giancana" was a cause for celebration. His infatuation with Accardo bordered on the erotic.

In The Enforcer he thought he was breaking balls by showing up at Chicago guy's houses, Mad Sam (?) always welcomed him and served him coffee, come to find out later Sam was pissing in it. Atta boy, Sam!
As I recall, DeStefano would tell Roemer that the coffee had a unique flavor because he imported special coffee beans from Italy lol.

Re: Goodfellas And The Sopranos Writers Team Up For New Mafia Series

by Ivan » Fri Aug 07, 2020 5:36 am

Wiseguy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 06, 2020 7:30 pm
Pogo The Clown wrote: ↑Thu Aug 06, 2020 5:41 pm Man I must be the only one on the forums who really enjoyed War of the Godfathers. :lol:


Pogo
I thought it was entertaining fiction.

Even more entertaining were the posters here and there who would refer to it as history until they were told to look at the disclaimer in the front of the book.
I've seen the fictional events in it cited as real in an ostensibly serious true crime book, believe it or not. It was one of those Time/Life-style "story of the American mob" generic history thingies.

Re: Goodfellas And The Sopranos Writers Team Up For New Mafia Series

by Adam » Fri Aug 07, 2020 5:27 am

Chris Christie wrote: ↑Fri Aug 07, 2020 5:00 am
Adam wrote: ↑Fri Aug 07, 2020 4:47 am And maybe it's early and I'm in a bad mood but Roemer is awful. If there had been a Chicago mob war I would bet everything I own that Roemer would give his informants information to kill the opposition. And the shit he took credit for and claimed?....Jesus Christ.
Agreed. He came off as a pompous, self-righteous arrogant asshole. Informants "have seen the light and decided to join the right side" and "finally convincing Mexico to deport a retired Giancana" was a cause for celebration. His infatuation with Accardo bordered on the erotic.

In The Enforcer he thought he was breaking balls by showing up at Chicago guy's houses, Mad Sam (?) always welcomed him and served him coffee, come to find out later Sam was pissing in it. Atta boy, Sam!
My favorite was him trying to say his work in Arizona against Bonanno was him taking it to the mafia by going after a commission member. For the record, a retired banished commission member. He did oddly never mention the FBI agent who was trying to start a mob war by having people plant bombs at old wiseguy places in Aruzona. Weird. Roemer was working there then.

Re: Goodfellas And The Sopranos Writers Team Up For New Mafia Series

by Angelo Santino » Fri Aug 07, 2020 5:00 am

Adam wrote: ↑Fri Aug 07, 2020 4:47 am And maybe it's early and I'm in a bad mood but Roemer is awful. If there had been a Chicago mob war I would bet everything I own that Roemer would give his informants information to kill the opposition. And the shit he took credit for and claimed?....Jesus Christ.
Agreed. He came off as a pompous, self-righteous arrogant asshole. Informants "have seen the light and decided to join the right side" and "finally convincing Mexico to deport a retired Giancana" was a cause for celebration. His infatuation with Accardo bordered on the erotic.

In The Enforcer he thought he was breaking balls by showing up at Chicago guy's houses, Mad Sam (?) always welcomed him and served him coffee, come to find out later Sam was pissing in it. Atta boy, Sam!

Re: Goodfellas And The Sopranos Writers Team Up For New Mafia Series

by Adam » Fri Aug 07, 2020 4:47 am

And maybe it's early and I'm in a bad mood but Roemer is awful. If there had been a Chicago mob war I would bet everything I own that Roemer would give his informants information to kill the opposition. And the shit he took credit for and claimed?....Jesus Christ.

Re: Goodfellas And The Sopranos Writers Team Up For New Mafia Series

by Adam » Fri Aug 07, 2020 4:33 am

Pogo The Clown wrote: ↑Thu Aug 06, 2020 5:41 pm
Ivan wrote: ↑Thu Aug 06, 2020 4:31 pm
B. wrote: ↑Mon Aug 03, 2020 6:19 pm I'd much rather see a purely fictional story, ala the Sopranos and the Godfather. There are far more misses when they try to go for non-fiction or historical fiction with real mafia figures.
War of the Godfathers is probably the most egregious example of this I can think of.

Anyway, if by "mafia's first family" they mean "first" in a chronological sense, then this is probably about the family of Don Giuseppe Battista Balsamo (the first godfather).

Man I must be the only one on the forums who really enjoyed War of the Godfathers. :lol:


Pogo
I think we've talked about this, but a lot of our hatred for it comes from the fact that bookstores always had it in the "True Crime" section. That and even for fiction it did a weird blend of historically accurate, and madeup shit that sounded historically accurate. So a lot of people thought it was non fiction And of course it's written by Roemer. Who created a character who is him just to blow himself. Figuratively.

Re: Goodfellas And The Sopranos Writers Team Up For New Mafia Series

by Wiseguy » Thu Aug 06, 2020 7:30 pm

Pogo The Clown wrote: ↑Thu Aug 06, 2020 5:41 pm Man I must be the only one on the forums who really enjoyed War of the Godfathers. :lol:


Pogo
I thought it was entertaining fiction.

Even more entertaining were the posters here and there who would refer to it as history until they were told to look at the disclaimer in the front of the book.

Re: Goodfellas And The Sopranos Writers Team Up For New Mafia Series

by Grouchy Sinatra » Thu Aug 06, 2020 6:28 pm

B. wrote: ↑Mon Aug 03, 2020 6:19 pm I'd much rather see a purely fictional story, ala the Sopranos and the Godfather. There are far more misses when they try to go for non-fiction or historical fiction with real mafia figures.
Neither The Sopranos or The Godfather were entirely fictional. Both basically did reenactments of real stories just in the universe of their fictional characters. The first season of The Sopranos was definitely based on the DeCavalcante dust up in the 90s after their boss died of cancer. Phil trying to take out Jersey was undoubtedly based on Amuso and Gaspipe. The Godfathers 1 and 2 took just about every major mob related event from the 1930s to the 1950s and reenacted them with its fictional Corleone family.

Re: Goodfellas And The Sopranos Writers Team Up For New Mafia Series

by Grouchy Sinatra » Thu Aug 06, 2020 6:23 pm

I was also wondering what they meant by "first family". The Morellos? Anyhow with Terrence Winter involved this has Boardwalk Empire written all over it, which I thought was kind of meh. Way too many storylines in each episode.

Re: Goodfellas And The Sopranos Writers Team Up For New Mafia Series

by Pogo The Clown » Thu Aug 06, 2020 5:41 pm

Ivan wrote: ↑Thu Aug 06, 2020 4:31 pm
B. wrote: ↑Mon Aug 03, 2020 6:19 pm I'd much rather see a purely fictional story, ala the Sopranos and the Godfather. There are far more misses when they try to go for non-fiction or historical fiction with real mafia figures.
War of the Godfathers is probably the most egregious example of this I can think of.

Anyway, if by "mafia's first family" they mean "first" in a chronological sense, then this is probably about the family of Don Giuseppe Battista Balsamo (the first godfather).

Man I must be the only one on the forums who really enjoyed War of the Godfathers. :lol:


Pogo

Re: Goodfellas And The Sopranos Writers Team Up For New Mafia Series

by JeremyTheJew » Thu Aug 06, 2020 4:44 pm

I mean...

Look at BUSINESS OR BLOOD

a excellent story without any need to fabricate...
...yet.... they made it a joke

Re: Goodfellas And The Sopranos Writers Team Up For New Mafia Series

by Ivan » Thu Aug 06, 2020 4:31 pm

B. wrote: ↑Mon Aug 03, 2020 6:19 pm I'd much rather see a purely fictional story, ala the Sopranos and the Godfather. There are far more misses when they try to go for non-fiction or historical fiction with real mafia figures.
War of the Godfathers is probably the most egregious example of this I can think of.

Anyway, if by "mafia's first family" they mean "first" in a chronological sense, then this is probably about the family of Don Giuseppe Battista Balsamo (the first godfather).

Re: Goodfellas And The Sopranos Writers Team Up For New Mafia Series

by aleksandrored » Thu Aug 06, 2020 3:30 pm

It would be interesting if it was something more of the current era, like Sopranos at the time, it was interesting to see a series of the mafia (even if it is fiction) nowadays, I wanted to see how they would do even more today that LCN is not so popular.

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