THE BLACK HAND FORUM

JoelTurner wrote: ↑Sun Apr 07, 2024 12:32 pm

Antiliar wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 12:48 pm in 1908 a Giovanni Carollo was allegedly burned to death in an oven by bakers and brothers Giuseppe and Vito Bonventre, and their aides Gaspare Galante and "Stadler" Lisante. In reality they allegedly strangled Carollo for getting behind on a loan and dumped his body in a sack in a vacant lot. Vito Bonventre would be the same man who gave Joe Bonanno a job as a truck driver for his bakery in 1924.

Giovanni Carollo was also a baker from Castellammare del Golfo. He had loaned money to the Bonventre bros to help them start their bakery. He was killed when he tried to collect.

His partner & roommate was Antonio Ditta. Born Jul 31 1875 in Vita, he later moved to New Jersey; living at 269 Fairmount Ave, Newark, NJ. There were a lot of links between the Bonanno family and the Newark family’s Vita group so this is interesting.

Antiliar wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 12:48 pm in 1908 a Giovanni Carollo was allegedly burned to death in an oven by bakers and brothers Giuseppe and Vito Bonventre, and their aides Gaspare Galante and "Stadler" Lisante. In reality they allegedly strangled Carollo for getting behind on a loan and dumped his body in a sack in a vacant lot. Vito Bonventre would be the same man who gave Joe Bonanno a job as a truck driver for his bakery in 1924.

nash143 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 30, 2023 2:08 pm

jimmyb wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 8:47 pm

nash143 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 4:14 am I am attempting to map out a family tree that details CDG-born Bonanno members (+ Magaddino) and their offspring. I've come up against a few dead-ends.

Can anyone help identify paternal links for the following Bonanno members?

- Joseph Sabella b. c1965
- Antonino Bonventre b.1930 (Father of Giacomo)
- Giuseppe Buccellato b.1912 - I have his Father as Filippo b. 1876 - does anyone know how Filippo ties into the other Buccellatos?

Any help appreciated!

I can't remember if I shared this with you yet, but Felice and Martino were brothers. Filippo Buccellato was their first cousin

Do you know if the Father of the Filippo Buccellato you mention was named Giuseppe (b1840)- and if he was the brother of Giovanni (b1845, father of Felice and Martino)?

I figured if Giuseppe Buccellato b1912 was first born, his paternal grandfather would also be Giuseppe.

jimmyb wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 8:47 pm

nash143 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 4:14 am I am attempting to map out a family tree that details CDG-born Bonanno members (+ Magaddino) and their offspring. I've come up against a few dead-ends.

Can anyone help identify paternal links for the following Bonanno members?

- Joseph Sabella b. c1965
- Antonino Bonventre b.1930 (Father of Giacomo)
- Giuseppe Buccellato b.1912 - I have his Father as Filippo b. 1876 - does anyone know how Filippo ties into the other Buccellatos?

Any help appreciated!

I can't remember if I shared this with you yet, but Felice and Martino were brothers. Filippo Buccellato was their first cousin

nash143 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 4:14 am I am attempting to map out a family tree that details CDG-born Bonanno members (+ Magaddino) and their offspring. I've come up against a few dead-ends.

Can anyone help identify paternal links for the following Bonanno members?

- Joseph Sabella b. c1965
- Antonino Bonventre b.1930 (Father of Giacomo)
- Giuseppe Buccellato b.1912 - I have his Father as Filippo b. 1876 - does anyone know how Filippo ties into the other Buccellatos?

Any help appreciated!

Antiliar wrote: ↑Tue Mar 28, 2023 10:19 pm

Angelo Santino wrote: ↑Tue Mar 28, 2023 9:40 pm Rick and I along with James Buccellato and Frank Fiordilino just completed an early Cast Del Golfo 1860-1957 episode and it came out amazing. Can't wait to get this one up and you can believe we'll be collaborating again. This week will be Tampa with Scott Deitche, next week will be a beautiful Chicago episode with Rick, Tony, Eric and Snakes.

We got some good stuff coming. I'm very happy to have been a part of it.

The 1837 report you cited is on the first page of this thread

Angelo Santino wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 5:54 pm 1837:

QUESTIONS OF FACT
1. Do you know that Gattina is guilty of murder in the person of Francesco Paolo Prato, and of excitement to the people to commit the massacre against a class of people?
2. Do you know that the brothers Pietro and Luca Mirra have taken an active part in the aforementioned crimes?
3. Do you know that the remaining Spallina, Ferriera, Trapani, Giovenco, Zito, Rosalia, Vavila, Benvenuto, Maranzano, Zimmardi and Macaluso are guilty of attempted massacre?

Considering that the public examination has prepared the following facts:
1. The morning of 11 next July in this was killed in the courtyard of the Conceziono al Capo the named Francesco Paolo Prato, because he was believed to be the proponator of poison; the first to attack him was Vincenzo Gattina; the brothers Pietro and Luca Mirra took an active part in it, and all three excited the crowd to bring the massacre towards the class of people, made to be believed to be a propagator of poison; with attacking by the feet and publicly dragging the body of the interceptor through several streets, often proclaiming the voices of Viva S. Rosalia, preceded even by Salvatore Zito, who waved a handkerchief; Hurrying the said Gattina as troublemaking to deal with that huge crime, announcing that after that they had to go to the Police Directorate to do the same in person of another subject, who said he was puranco propagator of poison.

2. That the other aforementioned Spallina, Ferriera, Trapani, Giovenco, Zito, Rosalia, Vavila, Benvenuto and Maranzano made this attempt.

3. That Zimmardi was seen at the time of that union.
Considering that the generic of the murder is well based on the report of the health expert; Considering for the specification that the facts expressed above come from sufficient disputed documents and witnesses;

Considering that the real object of the attackers was not only to kill the man who mistakenly believes they were the author of poisoning, but that of inviting the people to the massacre of indeterminate individuals, who wanted to make the perpetrators of such alleged crimes believe, or this the object of carrying out further searches for poisons in the houses of the city peace, as they had said in wanting also to kill an existing person in the Police Directorate, and thus helping the killers and the robberies; For these reasons, the aforementioned Commission has unanimously declared, and declares

1. Finding to be the aforementioned Gattina, Pietro and Luca Mirra brothers, Spallina, Ferriera, Trapani, Giovenco, Zito, Rosalia, Vavila, Benvenuto and Maranzano guilty of their respective crimes as a consequence of the queries.

2. Do not find enough to be Zimmardi guilty of the crime for which he was to be prevented, by ordering to obtain a large instruction to remain in prison during the same.

3. To ascertain that he is not the last, that is Macaluso, guilty of the crime with which he was accused, and to put himself once again in absolute freedom.

Finally, behind the straight question proposed by the President, the aforementioned Commission came with the same uniformity of votes to condemn imentate individuals to the following classification of penalties, namely:

1. Vincenzo Gattina to death penalty with shooting and with the 2nd degree of public example according to art. 130 of the criminal laws.

2. Pietro and Luca Mirra brothers to death penalty by shooting in accordance with art. 131 of the said laws. (A century later and Mirras were still getting shot.)

3. Salvatore Spallina at the 3rd degree of irons for twenty-four years, in accordance with art. 132 of the above-mentioned laws.

4. Salvatore Zito at the 2nd grade of the irons for eighteen years.

5. Gioacchino Ferrierı, Gaetano Trapani and Ignazio Giovenco on the fence for years! 3.

6. Giuseppe Rosalia, Giacomo Vavila, Angelo Benvenuto and Salvatore Maranzano to imprisonment for six years, being of a minor age.

Finally, he condemned all the aforementioned individuals jointly and severally to the costs of the judgment in favor of the Real Treasury.
In the end he condemned the more repeated Spallina, Zito, Ferriera, Trapani, Giovenco, Rosalia, Vavila, Benvenuto and Maranzano to the curse for three years under penalty of 300 ducats.

He also ordered the execution of this sentence tomorrow morning at 7 a.m., and that 200 copies be printed in print for the corresponding publication and branch.
All by the care and diligence of the Captain Rapporteur.
Made, read and published today in continuation of the trial in Palermo,
on August 4, 1837.
Signed:
Ludovico Matina artillery colonel president.
Giuseppe Ferrara captain of the first grenadiers.
Job Romanzi captain of the 1st line.
Francesco Valliso captain of the 2nd line.
Antonio Albertis 1st Lieutenant of the 1st Grenadiers.
Gaetano Prinzivalli 1st lieutenant of the 10th line.
Domenico Patierno captain speaker.
Gaetano Vanni judge of the Civil Court, man of law.
Francesco D 'Avella 2nd sergeant of 1st line King, chancellor.
Seen
Captain Speaker DOMENICO PATIERNO, major assistant.

Angelo Santino wrote: ↑Tue Mar 28, 2023 9:40 pm Rick and I along with James Buccellato and Frank Fiordilino just completed an early Cast Del Golfo 1860-1957 episode and it came out amazing. Can't wait to get this one up and you can believe we'll be collaborating again. This week will be Tampa with Scott Deitche, next week will be a beautiful Chicago episode with Rick, Tony, Eric and Snakes.

We got some good stuff coming. I'm very happy to have been a part of it.