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Re: Frank Cullotta has Covid-19

by SolarSolano » Wed Jul 15, 2020 2:46 pm

PolackTony wrote: Wed Jul 15, 2020 1:46 pm
SolarSolano wrote: Wed Jul 15, 2020 12:12 pm Grain of salt with this guy - how the hell would he know about Bonnano? Frank has all the fame, but his older brother Joey was the real Outfit guy who you never read about. Joe wasn't a thief either he was a real earner - Frankie flipped while his brother stayed in the Outfit and made millions.
Always heard that Joey Cullotta was just a connected guy who was a barber, but I've always wondered about him. Seems to have always been some dispute whether he was a wiseguy himself or if he was being confused with Joe Kong Calato. Your opinion?
My opinion - Joe Kong is not the same Calato who was indicted with DiVarco in the 80s. That was Joe Kong's son and he was acquitted for being a wire room clerk. They gave him the old man's nickname because they called him "Joey Kong" while his father went by "Joe Kong." Joe Kong is Culotta's brother - he was with Marco D'Amico and owned businesses throughout Melrose Park and Maywood - ran numbers, had a vending machine company and got busted for a prostitution scam at one point. I'm not sure whether the misspelled names are accurate or done on purpose or not. I also believe Joe Kong passed away but not certain. If he is still alive, he is very old at this point.

Re: Frank Cullotta has Covid-19

by PolackTony » Wed Jul 15, 2020 1:46 pm

SolarSolano wrote: Wed Jul 15, 2020 12:12 pm Grain of salt with this guy - how the hell would he know about Bonnano? Frank has all the fame, but his older brother Joey was the real Outfit guy who you never read about. Joe wasn't a thief either he was a real earner - Frankie flipped while his brother stayed in the Outfit and made millions.
Always heard that Joey Cullotta was just a connected guy who was a barber, but I've always wondered about him. Seems to have always been some dispute whether he was a wiseguy himself or if he was being confused with Joe Kong Calato. Your opinion?

Re: Frank Cullotta has Covid-19

by Confederate » Wed Jul 15, 2020 1:44 pm

SolarSolano wrote: Wed Jul 15, 2020 12:12 pm Grain of salt with this guy - how the hell would he know about Bonnano? Frank has all the fame, but his older brother Joey was the real Outfit guy who you never read about. Joe wasn't a thief either he was a real earner - Frankie flipped while his brother stayed in the Outfit and made millions.
Huge usual gross exaggeration. Like you really know what Joe Cullotta earned all for himself. You could say his brother was not a thief & was more successful. Leave it that way.

Re: Frank Cullotta has Covid-19

by SolarSolano » Wed Jul 15, 2020 12:12 pm

Grain of salt with this guy - how the hell would he know about Bonnano? Frank has all the fame, but his older brother Joey was the real Outfit guy who you never read about. Joe wasn't a thief either he was a real earner - Frankie flipped while his brother stayed in the Outfit and made millions.

Re: Frank Cullotta has Covid-19

by JeremyTheJew » Wed Jul 15, 2020 8:34 am

Interesting that Collutta claims that he doesn't believe that Bill Bonanno was really made...

I'm pretty sure he was.

As well as he claims the FBI wanted him to claim HE was a made guy, but he would say only in LV he was made

Re: Frank Cullotta has Covid-19

by JeremyTheJew » Mon Jul 13, 2020 9:19 pm

Lefty_Ruggiero wrote: Mon Jul 13, 2020 6:11 pm Frank is back on Youtube now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=393hiKNI1U4
I'll raise ya:

https://youtu.be/UNNRvaxKk64

Re: Frank Cullotta has Covid-19

by Lefty_Ruggiero » Mon Jul 13, 2020 6:11 pm

Frank is back on Youtube now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=393hiKNI1U4

Re: Frank Cullotta has Covid-19

by JeremyTheJew » Sun Jul 12, 2020 9:13 pm

Cullotta has lots podcasts. Actually kinda funny.

He also discusses Chicago bosses from 60s - 80s

Re: Frank Cullotta has Covid-19

by Moscone65 » Fri Jul 10, 2020 6:25 pm

Barese and Italian are essentially different languages that both evolved from Latin. For example in Italian the word for wine is vino, from Latin vinum. The Barese word for wine is mirre, from the Latin merum. Many words are mutually unintelligible with Italian, but many are.

Re: Frank Cullotta has Covid-19

by Moscone65 » Fri Jul 10, 2020 6:19 pm

Barese dialect is pretty similar to napuletan’, but still very distinctive. Napulatan and Barese are the most similar to each other. A Barese might understand a Napoletan but a Neapolitan might not understand a Barese, if that makes sense. And mugghiere in Barese is meghir’ (pronounces meg-yire) so kinda similar.

Re: Frank Cullotta has Covid-19

by JeremyTheJew » Fri Jul 10, 2020 5:00 pm

Did u guys know that cullotta has a podcast too??

https://youtu.be/yRjFwWTM1pw

Cullotta calls Franz a rat

Re: Frank Cullotta has Covid-19

by PolackTony » Thu Jul 09, 2020 9:31 am

Also just to further comment. Patsy Spilotro arrived in the US as a teenager from Bari. By the time he married Tony's mother he had been in Chicago about 15 years. Given this fact and the fact that his mother was American born of Sicilian background, I'd strongly suspect that Tony's parents communicated mainly in English (as their native dialects were quite different from each other). The language question is a complicated and nuanced one and language use varied a lot between families of course depending on when and where they arrived from Italy.

Re: Frank Cullotta has Covid-19

by PolackTony » Thu Jul 09, 2020 8:46 am

Confederate wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 12:13 am Guys, if you simply look at a Map of Italy, there are 5 DIFFERENT regions in the South:
1), Campania (Naples)
2). Puglia (Bari)
3). Basilicata
4). Calabria
5). Sicily
Each region has it's own dialect that is a little different than the other. No?
Anyway, the point is that Spilotro probably couldn't speak Italian anyway so it would not have mattered if his parents came from Sicily or Bari.
The dialects of the south are on a dialect continuum but they're categorized under two languages -- Napulitano and Sicilianu. Campania, Abruzzo, Molise, Basilicata, and parts of Calabria and Puglia (along with the southern fringes of Lazio and Marche that historically were part of the Kingdom of Naples) speak local dialects that are all closely related enough that they're considered variants of Napulitano. The Salento area in Puglia and the part of Calabria south of Cosenza speak local variants of Sicilianu.

And yes Spilotro did state on the tape that he didn't speak much Italian. And only his father, FWIW was Barese. His mother was born in the US to Sicilian parents. Given that his father died when he was relatively young and his mother was American he may have not been exposed to as much Italian as someone like Lombardo (both parents immigrated from Bari) or DiFronzo (first generation kid who was born in Bari) for example.

Re: Frank Cullotta has Covid-19

by Confederate » Thu Jul 09, 2020 12:13 am

Guys, if you simply look at a Map of Italy, there are 5 DIFFERENT regions in the South:
1), Campania (Naples)
2). Puglia (Bari)
3). Basilicata
4). Calabria
5). Sicily
Each region has it's own dialect that is a little different than the other. No?
Anyway, the point is that Spilotro probably couldn't speak Italian anyway so it would not have mattered if his parents came from Sicily or Bari.

Re: Frank Cullotta has Covid-19

by PolackTony » Wed Jul 08, 2020 11:44 pm

Antiliar wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 3:41 pm
Bruno187 wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 3:21 pm Bari is definitely not near Naples. Unless you consider the diametrically opposite coast "near". Their dialects are no way near being similar either.
I corrected the wording. As for the dialect, one source says this: "Bari dialect is a dialect of Neapolitan spoken in the Apulia and Basilicata regions of Italy."
Correct, Barese is a local dialect of Napuletano. Napuletano referring to the popular language spoken in the former Kingdom of Naples, rather than Napoli proper, of course.

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