by stubbs » Thu Jun 04, 2020 7:57 am
dack2001 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 04, 2020 6:46 am
By the end of the 80's, it was believed that Long John flipped the Crow in an attempted power move to take control when he got out on his appeal. Long John thought he was close to being released once his appeal was overturned in 86/87. After Crow testified that Long John stroked him into thinking Scarfo was going to kill him and the guys heard Crow testify to whatLong John told him, Nicky put out a hit on Long John and assigned it to his son and George Fresolone in North Jersey. That was in 89/90. All those guys saw Crow testify multiply times, I'm sure they all knew what Long John was up to.
It took 8-9 more years for the court to rule and affirm that Long John and Daidone couldn't be retried on their case. By then Joey had the reins and they were all facing trial and Joe was holding things together. Long John gets out and tries to put something together and the rest was history. I'm sure there was more than one person that had a hard-on for Long John. His power came from his wealth and being around Ang with the unions and dealing drugs, his associates were more of the meth dealing Riccobene/Natale variety. He didn't have a natural power base so his putting out feelers surely raised some eyebrows. I don't doubt that taking trips to Sicily also didn't raise antenna. That's only five years removed from Stanfa bringing Biago and Sergio Battaglia over and Long John was friends with all of Sanfa's guys who were old Riccobene guys. You don't think those zips guys raised eyebrows downtown when they arrived on the scene in the early 90's? I think what George says here makes a ton of sense. He doesn't deny his father made moves to get back in. And he says it very politically too about not wanting to see the guys who did it punished. Very smart.
Great post. There’s an old saying that an account with cosa nostra is never closed. Once you cross the line from civilian to criminal, you can go legit but you can never undo crossing that line.
By that, I mean you can leave the criminal life behind and work a 9-5, but if the guys still in the streets think you’re a liability they can still come after you. Look at Gino DiPietro. Maybe Gino really had turned his life around, but to the mob he was no civilian, just an ex-criminal.
If you want to get out of the life, move far away. But the only true way not to lose the game is to never play.
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By the end of the 80's, it was believed that Long John flipped the Crow in an attempted power move to take control when he got out on his appeal. Long John thought he was close to being released once his appeal was overturned in 86/87. After Crow testified that Long John stroked him into thinking Scarfo was going to kill him and the guys heard Crow testify to whatLong John told him, Nicky put out a hit on Long John and assigned it to his son and George Fresolone in North Jersey. That was in 89/90. All those guys saw Crow testify multiply times, I'm sure they all knew what Long John was up to.
It took 8-9 more years for the court to rule and affirm that Long John and Daidone couldn't be retried on their case. By then Joey had the reins and they were all facing trial and Joe was holding things together. Long John gets out and tries to put something together and the rest was history. I'm sure there was more than one person that had a hard-on for Long John. His power came from his wealth and being around Ang with the unions and dealing drugs, his associates were more of the meth dealing Riccobene/Natale variety. He didn't have a natural power base so his putting out feelers surely raised some eyebrows. I don't doubt that taking trips to Sicily also didn't raise antenna. That's only five years removed from Stanfa bringing Biago and Sergio Battaglia over and Long John was friends with all of Sanfa's guys who were old Riccobene guys. You don't think those zips guys raised eyebrows downtown when they arrived on the scene in the early 90's? I think what George says here makes a ton of sense. He doesn't deny his father made moves to get back in. And he says it very politically too about not wanting to see the guys who did it punished. Very smart.
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Great post. There’s an old saying that an account with cosa nostra is never closed. Once you cross the line from civilian to criminal, you can go legit but you can never undo crossing that line.
By that, I mean you can leave the criminal life behind and work a 9-5, but if the guys still in the streets think you’re a liability they can still come after you. Look at Gino DiPietro. Maybe Gino really had turned his life around, but to the mob he was no civilian, just an ex-criminal.
If you want to get out of the life, move far away. But the only true way not to lose the game is to never play.