THE BLACK HAND FORUM

JeremyTheJew wrote: ↑Sun Jul 05, 2020 8:54 pm Different scenarios but DeLeo wasn't made when he was basically hand picked for the acting boss spot...

gohnjotti wrote: ↑Fri Jul 03, 2020 12:23 pm

B. wrote: ↑Fri Jul 03, 2020 1:36 am Michael Persico's second wife who passed away was also the daughter of Gambino soldier David Rava and the granddaughter of the murdered Gambino captain Armand Rava.

His first wife was the daughter of Colombo member Tom Petrizzo.

I still want to know who told Greg Scarpa that Michael Persico was made. Scarpa was told twice (by the same person? by two different people?) that Michael Persico was a made member in the 1980s, which he reported to the FBI on separate occasions. Everything about Persico would suggest membership but no other source backs it up.

I didn't know that about Michael's second wife. Good stuff, B.

You're right that everything about Persico would suggest membership, but we have other informants who have specifically stated that he wasn't made, with Anthony Russo - who was Michael Persico's longtime right-hand - testifying specifically that he wasn't. It was a contentious issue in court papers regarding Michael's bail release after his arrest in 2010, with prosecutors conceding he wasn't made but that he held a higher rank due to his special connection to Carmine and Alphonse Persico.

Even if Scarpa was wrong, I think it was as harmless a mistake as Francis Guerra being mis-identified as a soldier by Chris Paciello, or Dino Calabro being mis-identified as a soldier in the 1990s (when the Colombo books were still closed). I think Michael Persico's influence extends beyond a made member, to the point where he was equal in stature with the ruling panel (with Skinny Teddy Persico Jr., another ruling panel member, telling Steve Marcus on tape that he needed permission from Michael before he could engage in violence).

B. wrote: ↑Fri Jul 03, 2020 1:36 am Michael Persico's second wife who passed away was also the daughter of Gambino soldier David Rava and the granddaughter of the murdered Gambino captain Armand Rava.

His first wife was the daughter of Colombo member Tom Petrizzo.

I still want to know who told Greg Scarpa that Michael Persico was made. Scarpa was told twice (by the same person? by two different people?) that Michael Persico was a made member in the 1980s, which he reported to the FBI on separate occasions. Everything about Persico would suggest membership but no other source backs it up.

B. wrote: ↑Fri Jul 03, 2020 1:36 am I still want to know who told Greg Scarpa that Michael Persico was made. Scarpa was told twice (by the same person? by two different people?) that Michael Persico was a made member in the 1980s, which he reported to the FBI on separate occasions. Everything about Persico would suggest membership but no other source backs it up.

gohnjotti wrote: ↑Sun Jun 14, 2020 4:11 pm

NYNighthawk wrote: ↑Sun Jun 14, 2020 7:04 am

gohnjotti wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 9:30 pm Actually some of them they might not be teens anymore, some of them definitely are because he adopted children later in life. His first wife passed away and he remarried, can’t recall all the details about his family or whether he had other kids after that. Not my business.

Interesting - she "passed" away while married to a Persico?

I believe it was cancer, or something along those lines. Not suspicious.

NYNighthawk wrote: ↑Sun Jun 14, 2020 7:04 am

gohnjotti wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 9:30 pm Actually some of them they might not be teens anymore, some of them definitely are because he adopted children later in life. His first wife passed away and he remarried, can’t recall all the details about his family or whether he had other kids after that. Not my business.

Interesting - she "passed" away while married to a Persico?

gohnjotti wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 9:30 pm Actually some of them they might not be teens anymore, some of them definitely are because he adopted children later in life. His first wife passed away and he remarried, can’t recall all the details about his family or whether he had other kids after that. Not my business.