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Re: Current state of New Jersey mob

by West Coast1 » Wed Jun 10, 2020 7:19 pm

GM I believe 100% you were robbed. By the so called "good guys"

Re: Current state of New Jersey mob

by Garbageman » Wed Jun 10, 2020 4:23 pm

Wiseguy wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 4:45 pm
Garbageman wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:08 am
moneyman wrote: Tue Jun 02, 2020 6:21 am"

Interesting that Gregory Goffredo got out of the trash business. Similar to what Garbageman has been alluding to, i.e waste management has been increasingly less profitable as a small business and less lucrative for LCN generally speaking.
That's pretty much it, theres no money in it unless you lowball and/or cheat...so why bother? The days of getting steady work are over. Most of the big nationwide companies have all the chain store contracts and mini-malls are all managed by the same type national accounts brokers so it's useless to even attempt a small operation nowadays unless you've got massive construction connections and even then, nothing is guaranteed. The only way yo profit real money is to own trucks and either a landfill or a transfer station. Good luck on opening either one of those in this area. The permit process alone would break the average person's life savings.
We've essentially been over regulated right out of business by the tri-state area's penchant for sustaining their government jobs under the guise of "rooting out" organized crime that just doesn't exist enough to justify government entities like the Business Integrity Commission in NYC, or BIC, the NJ A901 division and their FBI background checking processes which can take up to 1 year.
Sanitation services isnt rocket science. It's pretty much taking shit from one hole to another and the goal is to salvage as much recyclable materials as you can from what you haul. Like I said, you need a transfer station or a landfill operation to do that, and the costs are so prohibitive that only millionaires can afford to do it legally according to the regulations and guidelines. To me, you pickup a 30 yard dumpster, dump it in your yard, pick out the wood, metal, paper, cardboard, high grade plastics and whatever else you can sell and bury the rest or burn it. God forbid! With the food waste, you tell the customer to separate it and you bring that back to your farm and feed your animals with it. If its straight fruit and vegetables you can literally dump it straight into a feed bin. If theres meat and fish mixed it, you cook it in a giant cooker that you build yourself using creativity and ingenuity. That will never happen up here though. Anyway....end rant
You'd be the one to comment on this from a certain perspective, and correct me if you don't think this is the case, but it seems most of the mob presence today involves hauling debris from demolition, construction, excavation, etc.
I wouldn't really know, other than to take a guess. Since my ordeal I've grown a beard, moved and changed my phone numbers. Anyone I associated with then went their way and I went mine. I run a farm now. Wear overalls and am looking into taking up chewing tobacco as a hobby 😆

Re: Current state of New Jersey mob

by SonnyBlackstein » Wed Jun 10, 2020 10:55 am

moneyman wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 7:43 amThe tapes confirmed Milk was "Street Boss." Did not confirm who "Milk" actually was. B made a strong case for Milk being one of the Merlo brothers in a previous post -

- In addition to saying that "Milk's" family is the "root of the tree" from Sicily, Stango says "Milk and them" are "from 1910". As I mentioned earlier, the Merlos were among the first known Riberesi to settle in the Elizabeth area, being there shortly after the turn of the 20th century and running a dairy farm. I have never seen anything about the early family patriarch Michele Merlo being a member but it's entirely possible given the membership of his descendants and the Merlos' ties to other DeCavalcante members. With Joe Merlo Sr. being known by the nickname "Joe Milk" as I said earlier and the Merlo family's early presence in Elizabeth, Joe Merlo Jr. or Mike Merlo seem like the strongest candidates by far for "Milk". Scoops Licata was also recorded discussing the DeCavalcantes just under ten years ago and said the family at that time was being run by the sons of an earlier leader; "Joe Milk" Merlo never had a leadership role to my knowledge but the Merlos are two of the only known sons (plural) ID'd as current members, so this could add to the theory.
Great post MM

Re: Current state of New Jersey mob

by moneyman » Wed Jun 10, 2020 7:43 am

TommyGambino wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 4:26 am
Pogo The Clown wrote: Tue Jun 09, 2020 6:12 pm Nothing official has come on who the Boss is.


Pogo
Wasn't it on tape that he was acting boss,
The tapes confirmed Milk was "Street Boss." Did not confirm who "Milk" actually was. B made a strong case for Milk being one of the Merlo brothers in a previous post -

- In addition to saying that "Milk's" family is the "root of the tree" from Sicily, Stango says "Milk and them" are "from 1910". As I mentioned earlier, the Merlos were among the first known Riberesi to settle in the Elizabeth area, being there shortly after the turn of the 20th century and running a dairy farm. I have never seen anything about the early family patriarch Michele Merlo being a member but it's entirely possible given the membership of his descendants and the Merlos' ties to other DeCavalcante members. With Joe Merlo Sr. being known by the nickname "Joe Milk" as I said earlier and the Merlo family's early presence in Elizabeth, Joe Merlo Jr. or Mike Merlo seem like the strongest candidates by far for "Milk". Scoops Licata was also recorded discussing the DeCavalcantes just under ten years ago and said the family at that time was being run by the sons of an earlier leader; "Joe Milk" Merlo never had a leadership role to my knowledge but the Merlos are two of the only known sons (plural) ID'd as current members, so this could add to the theory.

Re: Current state of New Jersey mob

by TommyGambino » Wed Jun 10, 2020 4:26 am

Pogo The Clown wrote: Tue Jun 09, 2020 6:12 pm Nothing official has come on who the Boss is.


Pogo
Wasn't it on tape that he was acting boss,

Re: Current state of New Jersey mob

by bluehouse » Wed Jun 10, 2020 12:51 am

If new jersey had 1 crime family it would of been the most powerful family in the country behind the NY 5.

Re: Current state of New Jersey mob

by joerock » Tue Jun 09, 2020 7:27 pm

I'm sure official info will be leaked eventually I've read somewhere that Philip Abramo is the underboss and frank Nigro is consigliere still only thing that was backed up was frank Nigro being consigliere atleast back in 2015 things could change

Re: Current state of New Jersey mob

by Pogo The Clown » Tue Jun 09, 2020 6:12 pm

Nothing official has come on who the Boss is.


Pogo

Re: Current state of New Jersey mob

by TommyGambino » Tue Jun 09, 2020 6:07 pm

So Merlo is the boss?

Re: Current state of New Jersey mob

by joerock » Thu Jun 04, 2020 1:28 pm

You think Charles Stango will even have a spot waiting for him when he gets out?

Re: Current state of New Jersey mob

by Pogo The Clown » Thu Jun 04, 2020 10:41 am

Here is my list of the remaining members. Not all the ages are up to date so some of these guys are older than listed.


Members:
Philip Abramo/73
Gaetano “Guy” Alessi/79 (Dead?)
Daniel "Danny" Annunziata/79
Ciro “Jerry” Balzano/56
James Castaldo/63
Rosario “Russell” Cocchiaro/77
Dominick Colletti
Giacomo Colletti/69
Joseph Collina/69
Louis "Louie Eggs" Consalvo/61
Carl Corsentino/82
Nicholas “Nick the Plumber” Cottone
Frank D'Amato/71
Anthony Falzone
Paolo “Paul” Farina/92 (Dead?)
Francesco “Joe” Gatto/77
Joseph "Uncle Joe" Giaccobe/95 (Dead?)
Leonardo “Larry” Giacobbe
Girolamo “Mommo” Guarraggi
Felice “Phil the Undertaker” LaMela/85
Nicholas “Little Nicky” LaMela/83
Charles "Fat Charlie/Big Ears" Majuri/78
Anthony "Marshmallow" Mannarino/74
Mimmo Marzullo/54
Joseph “Joe Red” Merlo Jr.
Michael Merlo/65
Joseph Miranda/95 (Dead?)
Frank “Shipe” Nigro/64
Luigi “Dog” Oliveri/45 (UI)
Francesco “Frank the Painter” Paparatto/79
Gregory Rago/59
John "Junior" Riggi/64
Vincent Riggi/67
Giuseppe "Pino" Schifillitti/80
Joseph "Tin Ear" Sclafani/81
Charles “Charlie the Hat/Beeps” Stango/75 (IP/3/21/2024)
Gaetano "Corky" Vastola/90
Stefano "Steve the Truck Driver" Vitabile/83


Members ID'd only by a nickname:
FNU “Milk” LNU (Almost certainly either Joe or Mike Merlo)
FNU “Horse” LNU (most likely a member already on the list or one that has recently died like Frank Guarraci or Manny Riggi)
FNU “Big Head” LNU (most likely a member already on the list or one that has recently died like Frank Guarraci or Manny Riggi)


Likely Members: (These guys were proposed members in 1999. From 2000-2006 the family inducted 12 new members including all the other proposed members from 1999 so they were most likely among the 12).
Peter Colletti
Jerry Constabile
Frank Renda


Possible Member:
Salvatore Polizzi (son of deceased Capo Frank Polizzi) – Fresh Street talk had him as being inducted in the 2000-2006 period but nothing has ever come out to confirm that.


Pogo

Re: Current state of New Jersey mob

by stubbs » Thu Jun 04, 2020 7:48 am

Wiseguy wrote: Thu Jun 04, 2020 5:36 am I count about 40 members.
Any idea about how many are on the street vs locked up?

Re: Current state of New Jersey mob

by Wiseguy » Thu Jun 04, 2020 5:36 am

I count about 40 members.

Re: Current state of New Jersey mob

by Pogo The Clown » Wed Jun 03, 2020 8:14 pm

By my count the membership count is pretty much the same. Though I'd imagine a smaller portion are currently active.


Pogo

Re: Current state of New Jersey mob

by joerock » Wed Jun 03, 2020 7:32 pm

That probably went down a bit in 2020 what's your prediction for present day mr pogo

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