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by mafiastudent » Tue Jun 02, 2020 7:34 am
by mafiastudent » Tue Jun 02, 2020 7:00 am
by mafiastudent » Sat May 30, 2020 4:00 am
by mafiastudent » Fri May 22, 2020 10:20 pm
by bert » Fri May 22, 2020 10:12 pm
Siebel didn’t even hold a hearing to explain why she was giving this man a sentence longer than the one he agreed to in his plea in which he had pled guilty to “running a gambling operating obligations from bettors on unsuccessful wagers.”
by Pogo The Clown » Fri May 22, 2020 10:11 pm
They get wiretaps without informants all the time, you need to follow OC a bit more.
by bert » Fri May 22, 2020 10:11 pm
by bert » Fri May 22, 2020 10:06 pm
Pogo The Clown wrote: ↑Fri May 22, 2020 10:01 pm You're not explaining how a law abiding citizen can "see something or hear something" about organized crime murders, conspiracies and operations. And how can the FBI or any LE get probable cause for a wiretap warrant without using informants? We are all ears. Pogo
by Pogo The Clown » Fri May 22, 2020 10:01 pm
by bert » Fri May 22, 2020 9:52 pm
Pogo The Clown wrote: ↑Fri May 22, 2020 9:46 pm bert wrote: ↑Fri May 22, 2020 9:38 pm By seeing something, by hearing something. You never heard of witnesses? You are not serious. Looks like your not being serious. Again how will a law abiding citizen "see or hear" Steve Crea order a murder or Crea and DiNapoli discuses OC since you know they only do that sort among other criminals? Pogo
bert wrote: ↑Fri May 22, 2020 9:38 pm By seeing something, by hearing something. You never heard of witnesses? You are not serious.
by Pogo The Clown » Fri May 22, 2020 9:46 pm
by bert » Fri May 22, 2020 9:38 pm
Pogo The Clown wrote: ↑Fri May 22, 2020 9:33 pm No surprise that my meaning went right over your head. I'll try to explain so that you can understand. You describing DiNapoli and his ilk as just "sick and old people" is like describing Charles Manson as just an aspiring musician and Ted Bundy as just a law student. It is burying the lead and trying to portray them in a sympathetic light. A more apt description for DiNapoli is a murderous organized crime boss with a rap sheet a mile long. But you down play that part and try to make it seem that we want to throw random old and sick people into prison. You never heard of witnesses who were not involved in a crime? Get real. Ok please explain to us how someone not involved in organized crime will be in a position to testify against organized crime figures and their activities? In particular how will a law abiding citizen be able testify about the murders and racketeering operations involving Steve Crea and Joe DiNapoli? I'm all ears. Pogo
You never heard of witnesses who were not involved in a crime? Get real.
by Pogo The Clown » Fri May 22, 2020 9:33 pm
by bert » Fri May 22, 2020 8:50 pm
Pogo The Clown wrote: ↑Fri May 22, 2020 7:34 pm bert wrote: ↑Fri May 22, 2020 7:02 pm What is your reasons for wanting sick or old people to stay in prison Way to bury the lead. So guess I Charles Manson was just an aspiring musician and Ted Bundy was just a law student. Wire taps and real witness testimony from a citizen is enough. And how in your world would they go about getting wiretaps since they need probable cause to get one and in your world they are not allowed to use informants? As for "real witness testimony from a citizen" how would someone not involved in organized crime be a witness to anything that goes on in organized crime? Pogo
bert wrote: ↑Fri May 22, 2020 7:02 pm What is your reasons for wanting sick or old people to stay in prison
Wire taps and real witness testimony from a citizen is enough.
by Confederate » Fri May 22, 2020 7:47 pm
Pogo The Clown wrote: ↑Fri May 22, 2020 7:34 pm bert wrote: ↑Fri May 22, 2020 7:02 pm What is your reasons for wanting sick or old people to stay in prison Way to bury the lead. So guess I Charles Manson was just an aspiring musician and Ted Bundy was just an aspiring lawyer. Wire taps and real witness testimony from a citizen is enough. And how in your world would they go about getting wiretaps since they need probably cause to get one and in your world they are not allowed to use informants. As real witness testimony from a citizen" how would someone not involved in organized crime be a witness to anything that goes on in organized crime? Pogo
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