by Pete » Sun May 10, 2020 12:42 am
Frank wrote: ↑Wed May 06, 2020 11:47 am
Villain wrote: ↑Wed May 06, 2020 10:35 am
Frank wrote: ↑Wed May 06, 2020 10:15 am
Villain wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 10:01 pm
Thanks again. This completely confirms that the Cicero and Chinatown crews were born from the same group and stayed in close connection by representing the south side faction. Also confirms that by the late 70s there was a tension between the two crews, and they allegedly continued until LaPietra went to jail. Story goes that after Torellos death, Ferriola shouldve been the boss of the south side but LaPietra prevailed since Nagal was allegedly accused about something. So theres possibility that during his reign, the crews were divided to an extent, but when Angelo was gone, Ferriola obviously became the boss of the south, and even the Heights mob possibly reported to him at the time. After Ferriola, it seems that Infelice and Monteleone kept the close collaboration between the crews and also kept the south faction in one piece, same as their legacy such as Sarno and Delaurentis.
It also shows that the south side mob wanted to knock off some of the top westsiders, although it seems that DiFronzo stopped the whole thing by retreating. Besides that, some Melrose Park west side crew members were still forcing their presence at the top, and thats why they killed Chiaramonti and Zizzo. It seems that the only westsiders who played it smart and remained on the scene were the Grand Av guys. So by the late 2000s or early 2010s we have the South Side mob/Cicero and Chinatown, followed by Grand Av and what was left of the former EP crew
But I'm not saying your wrong. Snr mentions problems between Andriacchi and Tornabene. Wasnt Tornabene Melrose Park? Ive also read that Andriacchi had problems with Monteleone and even DiFronzo
Tornabene was Aiuppas legacy meaning MP and southern Cicero, and also interests around the south.
I also believe that both Monteleone and Andriacchi shared the top spot while No Nose had problems, which explains the tension to an extent
Yes thats where we and I have had Tornabene, basically in charge of the Melrose Park-Cicero while Carlisi and Marcello were doing time and probably an administration member at some point.
We can transcribe the marcello tapes next I’ll help and I think calabrese testifies the same after monteleone died jimmy made tornabene acting boss until he was released. There’s a tape of jimmy going on about tornabene basically saying how he was supposed to just take care of things till jimmy got back but started getting too big for his britches which pissed jimmy off. Jimmy was old school. His tapes are gold he complained about tornabene, fratto, and sarno, saying he would straighten everything out when he got home. It sounded like he planned to knock some people off he was very serious and pissed talking about how these people were out of line and it wouldn’t take him long to straighten everything out when he got home. If he didn’t have all the heat things could have got bad real quick. Sarno he called a “good kid” in one tape and ripped him in another. See Jimmy was away along time he thought things were still like before he went away and if they were he would send the hit parade on multiple people. Like I said I’ll help do the marcello tapes next their gold. Many people got lucky cuz he had big plans that included a lot of bodies. You look at Jimmy compared to the guy that follows sarno there’s no comparison. Read the article about the guy in the mcc with Jimmy. He said he’s this little guy but everyone in there, every color, listened to him what he said went.
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Thanks again. This completely confirms that the Cicero and Chinatown crews were born from the same group and stayed in close connection by representing the south side faction. Also confirms that by the late 70s there was a tension between the two crews, and they allegedly continued until LaPietra went to jail. Story goes that after Torellos death, Ferriola shouldve been the boss of the south side but LaPietra prevailed since Nagal was allegedly accused about something. So theres possibility that during his reign, the crews were divided to an extent, but when Angelo was gone, Ferriola obviously became the boss of the south, and even the Heights mob possibly reported to him at the time. After Ferriola, it seems that Infelice and Monteleone kept the close collaboration between the crews and also kept the south faction in one piece, same as their legacy such as Sarno and Delaurentis.
It also shows that the south side mob wanted to knock off some of the top westsiders, although it seems that DiFronzo stopped the whole thing by retreating. Besides that, some Melrose Park west side crew members were still forcing their presence at the top, and thats why they killed Chiaramonti and Zizzo. It seems that the only westsiders who played it smart and remained on the scene were the Grand Av guys. So by the late 2000s or early 2010s we have the South Side mob/Cicero and Chinatown, followed by Grand Av and what was left of the former EP crew
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But I'm not saying your wrong. Snr mentions problems between Andriacchi and Tornabene. Wasnt Tornabene Melrose Park? Ive also read that Andriacchi had problems with Monteleone and even DiFronzo
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Tornabene was Aiuppas legacy meaning MP and southern Cicero, and also interests around the south.
I also believe that both Monteleone and Andriacchi shared the top spot while No Nose had problems, which explains the tension to an extent
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Yes thats where we and I have had Tornabene, basically in charge of the Melrose Park-Cicero while Carlisi and Marcello were doing time and probably an administration member at some point.
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We can transcribe the marcello tapes next I’ll help and I think calabrese testifies the same after monteleone died jimmy made tornabene acting boss until he was released. There’s a tape of jimmy going on about tornabene basically saying how he was supposed to just take care of things till jimmy got back but started getting too big for his britches which pissed jimmy off. Jimmy was old school. His tapes are gold he complained about tornabene, fratto, and sarno, saying he would straighten everything out when he got home. It sounded like he planned to knock some people off he was very serious and pissed talking about how these people were out of line and it wouldn’t take him long to straighten everything out when he got home. If he didn’t have all the heat things could have got bad real quick. Sarno he called a “good kid” in one tape and ripped him in another. See Jimmy was away along time he thought things were still like before he went away and if they were he would send the hit parade on multiple people. Like I said I’ll help do the marcello tapes next their gold. Many people got lucky cuz he had big plans that included a lot of bodies. You look at Jimmy compared to the guy that follows sarno there’s no comparison. Read the article about the guy in the mcc with Jimmy. He said he’s this little guy but everyone in there, every color, listened to him what he said went.