by Peppermint » Wed Apr 22, 2020 9:54 am
Boston+matt14 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 22, 2020 6:46 am
Peppermint wrote: ↑Mon Apr 20, 2020 5:48 pm
TallGuy19 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 20, 2020 2:48 pm
Rocco wrote: ↑Mon Apr 20, 2020 9:29 am
Scarfo Jr's mobster days are over. Right now he is just and inmate and will be for the next 30yrs. If you asked me...he fucked up big time. The First Plus scam was a complete failure. Not only was he caught on tapes talking about the crime. But he only had like 1.5yrs to actually spend the money and live a little off it. Now hes doing 30yr fuckin yrs. If you ask me ...he is a complete fuckin moron. And his father was a fuckin moron too. But that's just my opinion. Scarfo Jr could have done it right. Stuck to sports gambling and invested the money into legit businesses so his wife and kids had a future. Instead he was a dipshit and now his wife and kids are stuck holding the bag...broke. There are few smarts guys involved in that life....but for the most part you got allot of morons that you gotta rely on in that life...and it doesn't end well for most due to greed and just lack of smarts.
People seem to think that a mobster is smart simply because he makes a lot of money, but many of these money making schemes are short-sighted and destined to fail. If you can design a scam with a clear exit strategy that doesn't involve a prison cell you're pretty clever as far as I'm concerned, but running a multi-million dollar operation that results in a decades-long prison sentence just isn't worth it.
It can be worth it, money talks and the state is only willing to spend so much of it. Say you do a bank heist, and you get a million dollars. But you’ve been doing bank heists your whole criminal career, this is just the one heist you get busted doing. So you have millions of dollars from all those prior heists, not to mention all the drugs you’ve sold that they suspect you been selling but can’t quite connect you with, or the gambling rings, extortion, whatever.
Court is only going to rail you for that million dollars, if you raise the court costs to exceed that million dollars they aren’t going to spend the money to continue trying to convict you because now it’s exceeding the million dollars the state has to reimburse the bank you robbed. They’re either going to drop the case, or more likely try and cut you a deal that involves significantly less time than what they are originally trying to throw at you. That effectively makes those multi-million dollar operations you run entirely worth doing, because truth is in this country money puts you above the law. The sentence you get, or the result of the case, entirely depends on who can out spend who and drag it on the longest.
The key is also avoiding going to trial, because money isn’t swaying a jury without it being bribery. But so long as you stay out of trial, money talks louder than any lawyer.
Uhhh...the state doesn't reimburse banks if they get robbed. Also, if the feds really want to put the hammer to somebody, they will spend as much as it takes.
I never said anything about the feds, we all know the feds can just print money and throw endless amounts of it to accomplish something. You aren’t winning that fight unless you’re fucking Jeff Bezos or something.
Again though, just using banks as a talking point. I’d imagine regardless of my paraphrasing you understand what I’m getting at.
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Scarfo Jr's mobster days are over. Right now he is just and inmate and will be for the next 30yrs. If you asked me...he fucked up big time. The First Plus scam was a complete failure. Not only was he caught on tapes talking about the crime. But he only had like 1.5yrs to actually spend the money and live a little off it. Now hes doing 30yr fuckin yrs. If you ask me ...he is a complete fuckin moron. And his father was a fuckin moron too. But that's just my opinion. Scarfo Jr could have done it right. Stuck to sports gambling and invested the money into legit businesses so his wife and kids had a future. Instead he was a dipshit and now his wife and kids are stuck holding the bag...broke. There are few smarts guys involved in that life....but for the most part you got allot of morons that you gotta rely on in that life...and it doesn't end well for most due to greed and just lack of smarts.
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People seem to think that a mobster is smart simply because he makes a lot of money, but many of these money making schemes are short-sighted and destined to fail. If you can design a scam with a clear exit strategy that doesn't involve a prison cell you're pretty clever as far as I'm concerned, but running a multi-million dollar operation that results in a decades-long prison sentence just isn't worth it.
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It can be worth it, money talks and the state is only willing to spend so much of it. Say you do a bank heist, and you get a million dollars. But you’ve been doing bank heists your whole criminal career, this is just the one heist you get busted doing. So you have millions of dollars from all those prior heists, not to mention all the drugs you’ve sold that they suspect you been selling but can’t quite connect you with, or the gambling rings, extortion, whatever. [b]Court is only going to rail you for that million dollars, if you raise the court costs to exceed that million dollars they aren’t going to spend the money to continue trying to convict you because now it’s exceeding the million dollars the state has to reimburse the bank you robbed. [/b]They’re either going to drop the case, or more likely try and cut you a deal that involves significantly less time than what they are originally trying to throw at you. That effectively makes those multi-million dollar operations you run entirely worth doing, because truth is in this country money puts you above the law. The sentence you get, or the result of the case, entirely depends on who can out spend who and drag it on the longest.
The key is also avoiding going to trial, because money isn’t swaying a jury without it being bribery. But so long as you stay out of trial, money talks louder than any lawyer.
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Uhhh...the state doesn't reimburse banks if they get robbed. Also, if the feds really want to put the hammer to somebody, they will spend as much as it takes.
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I never said anything about the feds, we all know the feds can just print money and throw endless amounts of it to accomplish something. You aren’t winning that fight unless you’re fucking Jeff Bezos or something.
Again though, just using banks as a talking point. I’d imagine regardless of my paraphrasing you understand what I’m getting at.