THE BLACK HAND FORUM

JCB1977 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 29, 2020 1:13 pm Is there any info that shows what Tony Accardo was making in Chicago at his height? I'd have to assume he was doing as well as anybody. Nick Civella? Frank Balistrieri?

Confederate wrote: ↑Sun Jul 05, 2020 12:30 am

jmjm 02311 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 04, 2020 8:56 pm In 2013, Frank Cali's legal business and real estate reportedly amounted to $30 million. Add to this the income he earns from illegal business, hidden real assets such as cash or gold bar, and borrowed-name real estate or business, and he will have about 1.5 to 2 times the wealth of $30 million. He also owns a huge estate in the Dominican Republic, where he sometimes spent his vacation. The mafia leader's wealth is enormous, but it is no match for big business managers. The reason mafia leaders are really afraid of is not money but their power and influence.

https://www.google.co.kr/amp/s/www.businessinsider.co

This was your first post & The Site you referenced is an unsecured Site that has nothing on it which tells me what you said sounds like the usual big bullshit exaggeration about these guys. You have no idea how many other people were involved with what he supposedly owned and when he died, I guarantee you, all those partners took it over. The big huge exaggeration usually turns out to be about 5% to 10% of what is stated.

jmjm 02311 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 04, 2020 8:56 pm In 2013, Frank Cali's legal business and real estate reportedly amounted to $30 million. Add to this the income he earns from illegal business, hidden real assets such as cash or gold bar, and borrowed-name real estate or business, and he will have about 1.5 to 2 times the wealth of $30 million. He also owns a huge estate in the Dominican Republic, where he sometimes spent his vacation. The mafia leader's wealth is enormous, but it is no match for big business managers. The reason mafia leaders are really afraid of is not money but their power and influence.

https://www.google.co.kr/amp/s/www.businessinsider.co

Pogo The Clown wrote: ↑Sat May 09, 2020 8:16 pm From Vitale's debriefings that B. posted up. Backs up what Massino was saying about only receiving tribute from some of his captains.

- Vitale says that a family leadership position doesn't automatically receive money. He says most of the money family leaders make is through their own operations and businesses (legal and illegal) and that they only occasionally receive a cut from scores that gets kicked up. He says "it's not all trumped up" like outsiders would believe.

- Vitale says that a family leadership position doesn't automatically receive money. He says most of the money family leaders make is through their own operations and businesses (legal and illegal) and that they only occasionally receive a cut from scores that gets kicked up. He says "it's not all trumped up" like outsiders would believe.

newera_212 wrote: ↑Tue May 05, 2020 7:13 am Also, I know the whole point of the thread in general is to highlight how 'average' the money these guys pull down really is, especially in comparison to what we've seen in the past and what's shown in the media and on movies.

But still...

By the time Massino was in boss mode, full swing, and pulling in that $1.8 - $2 MM / year - he really wasn't doing much at all. Hanging out at his restaurant, and meeting guys under his own terms - making them come to him - to pass orders and settle disputes. I know he risked a lot and put in work to get to that point, but $2MM/year clean, untaxed, for almost doing nothing isn't bad. Even if he was taking and making less money, Massino put himself in position to have his day to day be a lot easier than the bosses who came before him (from what it sounds like)