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Re: The Outfit's African-Americans

by CabriniGreen » Fri Jun 19, 2020 5:51 pm

I think so, they still act up over there.... GDs and Sed have been warring since forever....

Re: The Outfit's African-Americans

by PolackTony » Fri Jun 19, 2020 8:48 am

CabriniGreen wrote: Fri Jun 19, 2020 6:21 am
CabriniGreen wrote: Fri Jun 19, 2020 4:29 am
Villain wrote: Thu Jun 18, 2020 2:37 pm
PolackTony wrote: Mon Jun 15, 2020 3:22 pm Thanks Villain this is a great thread. The rise of increasingly organized and vertically structured street gangs in the 1960s really took out the Outfit's control over rackets in the black neighborhoods of course. My understanding is that the Blackstone Rangers under Jeff Fort were particularly resentful of Outfit control and ran out black criminals who were working under or kicking up to the mob. The Stones had no qualms either up confronting and running out Italians who attempted to continue doing business in their territories without their authorization. I think it was similar with the Vice Lords on the Westside (the name itself chosen as an indicator that they viewed themselves as the rightful heirs to rackets in their community). Now, there are also accounts from the late 60s that I've heard of the Stones and VLs working with Outfit associated drug suppliers. They were open to continue working with the mob, but seemingly on their own terms as partners, as they were no longer going to tolerate being "run" or extorted like previous generations of black gangsters.

An interesting figure from this era was Mickey Cogwell, the chief of the Cobra Stones (aka King Cobras, originally the Egyptian Cobras in the 1950s). He had the reputation of being a very savvy and sophisticated gang leader and was claimed to have had close ties to the Outfit. The Chicago police department apparently had intelligence linking Cogwell to Caesar DiVarco and Joe Arnold. This would make sense as the King Cobras faction of Cogwell's organization had a large operation in the Cabrini Green pj's on the Near Northside. Cogwell was knocked down in 77 duento tensions with the leadership of the Black P Stones who feared and resented him as a threat to their dominance of the Main 21, a bird of directors of allied organizations under the Stones that predated the formation of the People Nation alliance in the late 70s. After Cogwell was taken out his organization renamed themselves the Mickey Cobras.
Thanks for the additional info
All I would add is that the Cobras had one building in Cabrini, Vice Lords had 500, the rest basically GDs....
Actually, when I was coming up they had one, originally they had 4 I think....
Additionally, by "Cabrini-Green" I'm including not just the CHA buildings but also the Marshall Field complex, as the Cobras controlled that as well. I assume that they still do?

Re: The Outfit's African-Americans

by Villain » Fri Jun 19, 2020 6:49 am

Thank you also Cabrini

Re: The Outfit's African-Americans

by CabriniGreen » Fri Jun 19, 2020 6:21 am

CabriniGreen wrote: Fri Jun 19, 2020 4:29 am
Villain wrote: Thu Jun 18, 2020 2:37 pm
PolackTony wrote: Mon Jun 15, 2020 3:22 pm Thanks Villain this is a great thread. The rise of increasingly organized and vertically structured street gangs in the 1960s really took out the Outfit's control over rackets in the black neighborhoods of course. My understanding is that the Blackstone Rangers under Jeff Fort were particularly resentful of Outfit control and ran out black criminals who were working under or kicking up to the mob. The Stones had no qualms either up confronting and running out Italians who attempted to continue doing business in their territories without their authorization. I think it was similar with the Vice Lords on the Westside (the name itself chosen as an indicator that they viewed themselves as the rightful heirs to rackets in their community). Now, there are also accounts from the late 60s that I've heard of the Stones and VLs working with Outfit associated drug suppliers. They were open to continue working with the mob, but seemingly on their own terms as partners, as they were no longer going to tolerate being "run" or extorted like previous generations of black gangsters.

An interesting figure from this era was Mickey Cogwell, the chief of the Cobra Stones (aka King Cobras, originally the Egyptian Cobras in the 1950s). He had the reputation of being a very savvy and sophisticated gang leader and was claimed to have had close ties to the Outfit. The Chicago police department apparently had intelligence linking Cogwell to Caesar DiVarco and Joe Arnold. This would make sense as the King Cobras faction of Cogwell's organization had a large operation in the Cabrini Green pj's on the Near Northside. Cogwell was knocked down in 77 duento tensions with the leadership of the Black P Stones who feared and resented him as a threat to their dominance of the Main 21, a bird of directors of allied organizations under the Stones that predated the formation of the People Nation alliance in the late 70s. After Cogwell was taken out his organization renamed themselves the Mickey Cobras.
Thanks for the additional info
All I would add is that the Cobras had one building in Cabrini, Vice Lords had 500, the rest basically GDs....
Actually, when I was coming up they had one, originally they had 4 I think....

Re: The Outfit's African-Americans

by CabriniGreen » Fri Jun 19, 2020 4:30 am

The building 500 I mean...

Re: The Outfit's African-Americans

by CabriniGreen » Fri Jun 19, 2020 4:29 am

Villain wrote: Thu Jun 18, 2020 2:37 pm
PolackTony wrote: Mon Jun 15, 2020 3:22 pm Thanks Villain this is a great thread. The rise of increasingly organized and vertically structured street gangs in the 1960s really took out the Outfit's control over rackets in the black neighborhoods of course. My understanding is that the Blackstone Rangers under Jeff Fort were particularly resentful of Outfit control and ran out black criminals who were working under or kicking up to the mob. The Stones had no qualms either up confronting and running out Italians who attempted to continue doing business in their territories without their authorization. I think it was similar with the Vice Lords on the Westside (the name itself chosen as an indicator that they viewed themselves as the rightful heirs to rackets in their community). Now, there are also accounts from the late 60s that I've heard of the Stones and VLs working with Outfit associated drug suppliers. They were open to continue working with the mob, but seemingly on their own terms as partners, as they were no longer going to tolerate being "run" or extorted like previous generations of black gangsters.

An interesting figure from this era was Mickey Cogwell, the chief of the Cobra Stones (aka King Cobras, originally the Egyptian Cobras in the 1950s). He had the reputation of being a very savvy and sophisticated gang leader and was claimed to have had close ties to the Outfit. The Chicago police department apparently had intelligence linking Cogwell to Caesar DiVarco and Joe Arnold. This would make sense as the King Cobras faction of Cogwell's organization had a large operation in the Cabrini Green pj's on the Near Northside. Cogwell was knocked down in 77 duento tensions with the leadership of the Black P Stones who feared and resented him as a threat to their dominance of the Main 21, a bird of directors of allied organizations under the Stones that predated the formation of the People Nation alliance in the late 70s. After Cogwell was taken out his organization renamed themselves the Mickey Cobras.
Thanks for the additional info
All I would add is that the Cobras had one building in Cabrini, Vice Lords had 500, the rest basically GDs....

Re: The Outfit's African-Americans

by Villain » Thu Jun 18, 2020 2:37 pm

PolackTony wrote: Mon Jun 15, 2020 3:22 pm Thanks Villain this is a great thread. The rise of increasingly organized and vertically structured street gangs in the 1960s really took out the Outfit's control over rackets in the black neighborhoods of course. My understanding is that the Blackstone Rangers under Jeff Fort were particularly resentful of Outfit control and ran out black criminals who were working under or kicking up to the mob. The Stones had no qualms either up confronting and running out Italians who attempted to continue doing business in their territories without their authorization. I think it was similar with the Vice Lords on the Westside (the name itself chosen as an indicator that they viewed themselves as the rightful heirs to rackets in their community). Now, there are also accounts from the late 60s that I've heard of the Stones and VLs working with Outfit associated drug suppliers. They were open to continue working with the mob, but seemingly on their own terms as partners, as they were no longer going to tolerate being "run" or extorted like previous generations of black gangsters.

An interesting figure from this era was Mickey Cogwell, the chief of the Cobra Stones (aka King Cobras, originally the Egyptian Cobras in the 1950s). He had the reputation of being a very savvy and sophisticated gang leader and was claimed to have had close ties to the Outfit. The Chicago police department apparently had intelligence linking Cogwell to Caesar DiVarco and Joe Arnold. This would make sense as the King Cobras faction of Cogwell's organization had a large operation in the Cabrini Green pj's on the Near Northside. Cogwell was knocked down in 77 duento tensions with the leadership of the Black P Stones who feared and resented him as a threat to their dominance of the Main 21, a bird of directors of allied organizations under the Stones that predated the formation of the People Nation alliance in the late 70s. After Cogwell was taken out his organization renamed themselves the Mickey Cobras.
Thanks for the additional info

Re: The Outfit's African-Americans

by Villain » Thu Jun 18, 2020 7:03 am

Lupara wrote: Tue Jun 16, 2020 11:32 am Sorry for the confusion guys, just breaking some balls as I probably do too often.

Carry on. [emoji3]
I swear I just saw this... :lol: respect my man 8-)

Re: The Outfit's African-Americans

by Lupara » Tue Jun 16, 2020 11:32 am

Sorry for the confusion guys, just breaking some balls as I probably do too often.

Carry on. [emoji3]

Re: The Outfit's African-Americans

by Pogo The Clown » Tue Jun 16, 2020 10:59 am

Guys Lupara was being tongue in cheek in light of recent events. :mrgreen:


Pogo

Re: The Outfit's African-Americans

by Pete » Mon Jun 15, 2020 11:50 pm

Lupara wrote: Mon Jun 15, 2020 4:04 pm I feel like African-American has a racist undertone. They are human beings thus no need to specify them by a particular heritage.

That said, great thread as always my man.
Wait hold on now African American is racist? I hope this is a joke and if it is I’ll be quiet lol if not then this is gonna be a long thread

Re: The Outfit's African-Americans

by Frank » Mon Jun 15, 2020 10:30 pm

Lupara wrote: Mon Jun 15, 2020 4:04 pm I feel like African-American has a racist undertone. They are human beings thus no need to specify them by a particular heritage.

That said, great thread as always my man.
How else could he make his point. You have to be kidding

Re: The Outfit's African-Americans

by Lupara » Mon Jun 15, 2020 4:04 pm

I feel like African-American has a racist undertone. They are human beings thus no need to specify them by a particular heritage.

That said, great thread as always my man.

Re: The Outfit's African-Americans

by PolackTony » Mon Jun 15, 2020 3:22 pm

Thanks Villain this is a great thread. The rise of increasingly organized and vertically structured street gangs in the 1960s really took out the Outfit's control over rackets in the black neighborhoods of course. My understanding is that the Blackstone Rangers under Jeff Fort were particularly resentful of Outfit control and ran out black criminals who were working under or kicking up to the mob. The Stones had no qualms either up confronting and running out Italians who attempted to continue doing business in their territories without their authorization. I think it was similar with the Vice Lords on the Westside (the name itself chosen as an indicator that they viewed themselves as the rightful heirs to rackets in their community). Now, there are also accounts from the late 60s that I've heard of the Stones and VLs working with Outfit associated drug suppliers. They were open to continue working with the mob, but seemingly on their own terms as partners, as they were no longer going to tolerate being "run" or extorted like previous generations of black gangsters.

An interesting figure from this era was Mickey Cogwell, the chief of the Cobra Stones (aka King Cobras, originally the Egyptian Cobras in the 1950s). He had the reputation of being a very savvy and sophisticated gang leader and was claimed to have had close ties to the Outfit. The Chicago police department apparently had intelligence linking Cogwell to Caesar DiVarco and Joe Arnold. This would make sense as the King Cobras faction of Cogwell's organization had a large operation in the Cabrini Green pj's on the Near Northside. Cogwell was knocked down in 77 duento tensions with the leadership of the Black P Stones who feared and resented him as a threat to their dominance of the Main 21, a bird of directors of allied organizations under the Stones that predated the formation of the People Nation alliance in the late 70s. After Cogwell was taken out his organization renamed themselves the Mickey Cobras.

Re: The Outfit's African-Americans

by Villain » Sun Apr 26, 2020 11:19 am

B. wrote: Sat Apr 25, 2020 10:34 pm Now you're telling me black men were members of the Oufit?

I kid.
Next is the Outfits Pleadian race :mrgreen:

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