THE BLACK HAND FORUM

Extortion wrote: ↑Sun May 10, 2020 6:26 pm It seems like Giancana had the most corrupt cops. Another amazing thing was Pat Marcy. An Al Capone gunmen as the officier of the first ward. A made member. They really did run the whole city up until the mid 1990s when Greylord and Gambit took place. Then the family secrets trial actually took down half the leadership. They said in a few docs that Chicago was the most powerful family in the country up until the 90s. After that id say Genovese took place as number one. Chicago was number one in power until the 90s because of the politics and corruption and also the skim and having reign over the other midwest families.

Marcy "created" guys like Richard Cain.

It seems like Giancana had the most corrupt cops. Another amazing thing was Pat Marcy. An Al Capone gunmen as the officier of the first ward. A made member. They really did run the whole city up until the mid 1990s when Greylord and Gambit took place. Then the family secrets trial actually took down half the leadership. They said in a few docs that Chicago was the most powerful family in the country up until the 90s. After that id say Genovese took place as number one. Chicago was number one in power until the 90s because of the politics and corruption and also the skim and having reign over the other midwest families.

Patrickgold wrote: ↑Sat May 09, 2020 11:45 am Many of the cops in some of the suburbs are favorable to the Outfit. Stone Park, Melrose Park, Elmwood Park, Cicero, Berwyn, Rosemont and Northlake. This is still going on this day. Tony Q who is part owner of Pole Katz is a former Franklin Park police officer. As for CPD, not like before. Some associates work as police but nothing like before. Just like the gangbangers. Some friends and family but nothing really organized. Look at the huge bookmaking bust that involved Casey Urlacher. There was a Chicago cop that was involved in that.

Thanks again

Many of the cops in some of the suburbs are favorable to the Outfit. Stone Park, Melrose Park, Elmwood Park, Cicero, Berwyn, Rosemont and Northlake. This is still going on this day. Tony Q who is part owner of Pole Katz is a former Franklin Park police officer. As for CPD, not like before. Some associates work as police but nothing like before. Just like the gangbangers. Some friends and family but nothing really organized. Look at the huge bookmaking bust that involved Casey Urlacher. There was a Chicago cop that was involved in that.

Pete wrote: ↑Fri May 08, 2020 7:50 pm

Mason_dixon wrote: ↑Mon Apr 20, 2020 8:34 pm Does Chicago have any cops on the payroll today? Any opinions?

In the sarno trial one or two cops were indicted for working for the outfit. Today I couldn’t say that case was almost 10 years ago

Thanks for the info bud I am sure a lot still get paid off to look the other way. For Gods sake it’s Chicago .

Mason_dixon wrote: ↑Mon Apr 20, 2020 8:34 pm Does Chicago have any cops on the payroll today? Any opinions?

In the sarno trial one or two cops were indicted for working for the outfit. Today I couldn’t say that case was almost 10 years ago

Heres another interesting case from the early 1950s era...

Fred Romano was an attorney and Outfit associate, who ensured the organization with his protection with the help of many government and police connections. In addition, Romano's boss was Ross Prio and took his orders directly from him.

One of Romano's connections was a police Captain Redmond P. Gibbons, who was a chief of the uniformed police and commander of the Hudson Av. police district. Gibbons had a good reputation as a policeman but all of his colleagues in the force knew about his shady connections with the underworld.

In 1953, Police Commissioner Timothy O'Connor started an investigation and pressed charges against Gibbons that were under the direction of Philip Breitzke, the deputy commissioner. The investigators found a little red memo book, which Gibbons admitted it was his, which contained addresses and telephone numbers of gambling places, clubs, and business enterprises in the Hudson Av. police district.

The book also contained mysterious numerical entries, ranging from 10 to 100, after some of the names. The numbers raised speculation about being "payoffs." Gibbons defended himself by saying that he didn’t fully acknowledged that the red book was his, but he said he had kept such a book while he was in command at Hudson av. back in 1949 and 1950. He said he kept data on his automobile and camera in the book.

Gibbons also said that he listed in it the names and addresses of friends and as well as information needed for police investigations. Gibbons also added that the addresses and telephone numbers which were traced to gambling establishments were in fact collected in the investigation of the murder of Marvin Bas, an attorney, who was shot and killed on September 25, 1950. The murder was not solved.

It was reported that Bas was about to give information to the United States senate crime investigating committee about his underworld connections. The biggest problem was that the book contained the phone number of Romano who by that time shared an office at 134 N. La Salle St, together with Prio.

The State's Attorney at the time, John Gutknecht also took the heat because his name was also been drawn from the entries in the book. When asked about this, he said that he had no intention of firing Romano, who by now he was also one of his assistants.

But some sources say that the reality was Gutknecht hired Romano with the full knowledge that he was a very close friend of Prio and the Outfit. Attorney William Mannion, who had screen Romano as a candidate, said that as far he was concerned, both Romano and Prio were “respectable businessmen” with no prior criminal record.

Now heres the most interesting thing.

You see, Prio’s criminal record dated from 1929 but because of a case such as this one, a court order was issued for the record to be destroyed, including the records of dozens of Chicago's big time hoodlums at the time, have been removed from the police bureau of identification regarding the previous years or decades.

Such removals were granted in cases where there was no evidence in the records that the hoodlums had ever been convicted. So the government was completely powerless against Romano and Prio, since the removals already took place prior to 1951, or more than two years before police commissioner O'Connor ruled against such action.

Heathen wrote: ↑Mon May 04, 2020 5:12 pm Dont know if they have been mentioned but Anthony Chiavola and his son is are two more. Was a Chicago police sergeant, that was involved in the Vegas skim.

Thanks

Dont know if they have been mentioned but Anthony Chiavola and his son is are two more. Was a Chicago police sergeant, that was involved in the Vegas skim.

In addition, according to one FBI file, by the early 1960s hundreds of thousands of dollars in “fix money” were given to numerous policemen of the Chicago Police Department for numerous favours received.

The “fix money” were left in an envelope for the police officials, who in turn picked it up from a certain location and that each envelope was numbered which indicated the specific policeman to receive the envelope.

For example, Gus Alex had his own courier and trusted individual known as Julius Epstein and his job was to drop the envelopes filled with cash at certain restaurants.

A confidential source for the FBI named several policemen that received these envelopes from Epstein during the past 8 years or from 1955 until 1963, including Deputy Commissioner of the Chicago Police Department Kyran Phalen, Police Captain James Hackett, Sergeant Pete Harlib, Sergeant John O’Shea, Sergeant Edward Kirby, Police Captain Rosey McLaughlin, Police Captain Harold Enright, Lieutenant Nick McLean and Captain Frank O’Sullivan.

While looking at this list, it seems that the Outfit had the whole police force in their back pocket at the time. The cops also had their own main bagman known as Detective Brian Connelly who mostly handled the payoffs in the First District Police Department.

Also Colonel John Gottlieb, who was a close associate of Alex and Sidney Korshak, was instrumental in obtaining promotions on the Chicago Police Force for many Mob associates, like for example Howard and Charles Pierson, two brothers who were on the Outfit’s payroll.

Few "honorable" mentions mainly from the Prohibition era...

Michael J. Ryan (police captain in Levee district), Michael Hughes (citys chief of detectives), William F. Russell, Peter B. Hoffman (Cook County sheriff), Hugh McCarthy (police captain), James Roger LeFevour, Theodore Svoboda (police captain in Cicero)

Patrickgold wrote: ↑Tue Apr 21, 2020 6:17 pm Not like before. There are Outfit relatives and friends on the job and maybe they do favors or maybe they don’t. Just like the gangbanger relatives. Nick Roti ran the organized crime section for a while not too long ago and he was relatives with the Outfit Rotis. It might even have been during his time as head of the Organized Crime section that they stopped investigating gambling. There is only so much a copper could do to help you these days with all the cameras and gps around.

I agree. They had blood relatives in the force since the old days and there are probably still some grandkids or nephews in it, but as you already said most of them are probably legit or maybe even tied to different gangs. Although for one cop to get corrupted, he doesnt need to be related to some Mafia member.

Not like before. There are Outfit relatives and friends on the job and maybe they do favors or maybe they don’t. Just like the gangbanger relatives. Nick Roti ran the organized crime section for a while not too long ago and he was relatives with the Outfit Rotis. It might even have been during his time as head of the Organized Crime section that they stopped investigating gambling. There is only so much a copper could do to help you these days with all the cameras and gps around.

Mason_dixon wrote: ↑Mon Apr 20, 2020 8:34 pm Does Chicago have any cops on the payroll today? Any opinions?

Can’t imagine they do, police corruption has been getting cracked down on nationwide and has been for awhile now. They’re basically a bunch of bureaucrats now with guns and badges, too much red tape and accountability now for that kind of corruption to still be taking place. This isn’t the good old days where information and data is widely suppressed. Everyone has a smart phone now, all cars have gps, and radio transmissions can be pinged easier than ever before. As soon as even a hint of the possibility one of the boys and blue is doing anything criminal, internal affairs is gonna come down hard and over every inch of every piece of the data trails their officers and detectives have left behind and find out exactly what it was they were up to. If it is still a do-able thing, can’t imagine a cop in their right mind knowing how advanced things have become would risk being on the take of any kind for any organized crime ring.

I could see DEA operatives being on the take however, much less accountability, much more freedom of discretion too. In most cases, they commit crimes themselves as is in order to apprehend their target. So I wouldn’t be surprised if there’s a couple of these guys in their pocket turning a blind eye. This is already a thing with cartels in Latin America, so why not here? If anything, especially here.

Does Chicago have any cops on the payroll today? Any opinions?