by CabriniGreen » Sun Mar 22, 2020 11:32 pm
stubbs wrote: ↑Sun Mar 22, 2020 11:10 am
Extortion wrote: ↑Sat Mar 21, 2020 5:49 pm
Bontade was not a faction of the Corleonesi, he was connected with the inzerillos and Bontade was assassinated by Luciano Leggio’s people.
That's exactly my point. Why would Leggio, the leader of the Corleonesi faction which had no close ties to the US families, be in the US to meet with the mafia commission in NY? Wouldn't it make a lot more sense if Bontade or someone from the Palermo families, which have been historically very close with the Gambinos and the Bonannos, went to NY instead?
If this article is true, the only thing that makes sense is if in 1972 Leggio was on the Cupola, the national commission in Sicily, alongside the Palermo bosses, before the Corleonesi eventually went to war to seize power for themselves. Does anyone know if that's the case? I think I remember reading that Toto Riina was part of the Cupola alongside Bontade and Badalamenti before the Second Mafia War started in the 80s.
So maybe in 1972 Leggio wasn't yet seen as a rival to the Palermo faction and visited New York on their behalf? The Corleonsi was described as being severely underestimated by the Palermo bosses, in terms their desire for power, so wondering if they trusted the Corleonesi too much at first.
Yes, it was. Initially, when the Cupola was reinstated, there was a triumvirate of Leggio, Bontade, and Badalamenti. This is interesting because it should have been Badalamenti to make such a trip....
The thing about Leggio is even though from Corleone, he unlike MANY mafiosi and bosses, was roaming relatively free in Palermo when the Cupola had to be disbanded in the 60s. He distributed kidnapping money made at the expense of the entrenched clans, to those that had fallen on hard times. He made a ton of friends in Palermo, made a lot of inroads into the Palermo power structure...
This is very interesting because IT MIGHT have actually happened. Not saying it's for sure at all, it might even be nonsense, but just thinking about it.....
Badalamenti and his allies in Sicily had the American connections. If they foolishly sent a Corleonesi member on their " behalf", then this could have been the critical mistake that sealed their fate.
It's a compelling theory.... Leggio gets some crucial introductions to American mafiosi, and then.... BOOM!
After that, having everything they need to rule the island, The Corleonesi EXPELL the leader of the Cupola from Cosa Nostra.
Start a war killing off the Gambino connections in Sicily.
I always saw it as intriguing, and political that Naimo became the Sicilian mafias point man, hes like, Riinas guy. And it was through what I'll call a " neutral family" like the Luchesses, and not the established Gambinos and Bonnanos. I say neutral, only because the Luchesses, unlike the Bonnanos and especially the Gambinos, didnt have the same type of vested interest in the power structure in Palermo.
I could never get it straight, Catalano was a Badalamenti guy? Who then went over to the Corleonesi?
If you take these meetings, and combine them with the activity they discussed in books like 6th Family, about all the meeting between Sicilian mafiosi and Americans working out smuggling routes, and resolving emerging territorial disputes as well as questions of equivalency between mafiosi from different families, it's very interesting. Guys like Settacasi, Violi, Salamone....
I've read before that Trafficante controlled the Carribean smuggling routes, while Marcello controlled the Gulf coast..... contraband would have been a huge thing....
Interesting article @ Stubbs thank for that..
Any thoughts?...
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Bontade was not a faction of the Corleonesi, he was connected with the inzerillos and Bontade was assassinated by Luciano Leggio’s people.
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That's exactly my point. Why would Leggio, the leader of the Corleonesi faction which had no close ties to the US families, be in the US to meet with the mafia commission in NY? Wouldn't it make a lot more sense if Bontade or someone from the Palermo families, which have been historically very close with the Gambinos and the Bonannos, went to NY instead?
If this article is true, the only thing that makes sense is if in 1972 Leggio was on the Cupola, the national commission in Sicily, alongside the Palermo bosses, before the Corleonesi eventually went to war to seize power for themselves. Does anyone know if that's the case? I think I remember reading that Toto Riina was part of the Cupola alongside Bontade and Badalamenti before the Second Mafia War started in the 80s.
So maybe in 1972 Leggio wasn't yet seen as a rival to the Palermo faction and visited New York on their behalf? The Corleonsi was described as being severely underestimated by the Palermo bosses, in terms their desire for power, so wondering if they trusted the Corleonesi too much at first.
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Yes, it was. Initially, when the Cupola was reinstated, there was a triumvirate of Leggio, Bontade, and Badalamenti. This is interesting because it should have been Badalamenti to make such a trip....
The thing about Leggio is even though from Corleone, he unlike MANY mafiosi and bosses, was roaming relatively free in Palermo when the Cupola had to be disbanded in the 60s. He distributed kidnapping money made at the expense of the entrenched clans, to those that had fallen on hard times. He made a ton of friends in Palermo, made a lot of inroads into the Palermo power structure...
This is very interesting because IT MIGHT have actually happened. Not saying it's for sure at all, it might even be nonsense, but just thinking about it.....
Badalamenti and his allies in Sicily had the American connections. If they foolishly sent a Corleonesi member on their " behalf", then this could have been the critical mistake that sealed their fate.
It's a compelling theory.... Leggio gets some crucial introductions to American mafiosi, and then.... BOOM!
After that, having everything they need to rule the island, The Corleonesi EXPELL the leader of the Cupola from Cosa Nostra.
Start a war killing off the Gambino connections in Sicily.
I always saw it as intriguing, and political that Naimo became the Sicilian mafias point man, hes like, Riinas guy. And it was through what I'll call a " neutral family" like the Luchesses, and not the established Gambinos and Bonnanos. I say neutral, only because the Luchesses, unlike the Bonnanos and especially the Gambinos, didnt have the same type of vested interest in the power structure in Palermo.
I could never get it straight, Catalano was a Badalamenti guy? Who then went over to the Corleonesi?
If you take these meetings, and combine them with the activity they discussed in books like 6th Family, about all the meeting between Sicilian mafiosi and Americans working out smuggling routes, and resolving emerging territorial disputes as well as questions of equivalency between mafiosi from different families, it's very interesting. Guys like Settacasi, Violi, Salamone....
I've read before that Trafficante controlled the Carribean smuggling routes, while Marcello controlled the Gulf coast..... contraband would have been a huge thing....
Interesting article @ Stubbs thank for that..
Any thoughts?...