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Re: HBO Doc. McMillions-Jerry Colombo and Uncle Dom

by gohnjotti » Wed Mar 04, 2020 7:37 pm

funkster wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2020 7:11 pm My guess is he was a very low level associate, if that. Maybe knew some people, the doc makes him sound like he was made which he clearly wasnt.
I put the chances of him being inducted at 0.1%, and the chances of him being an on-record, tribute-paying associate of the Colombo crime family (during the 1990s) at about 5-10%. It seems plausible that he would know Anthony & Chris Colombo of the renegade Colombo Bros crew, but that’s about it. Doc says he was going to NY and that the Colombo crime family was actually involved in the scheme, I guess to recruit out-of-state people to win the Monopoly prizes. I guess if he is an associate, the truth lies in those Monopoly records.

Maybe I’ll rewatch the documentary again and write down everything that comes out of the mouth of LE officials or prosecutors instead of Robin Colombo. That might help separate fact from fiction.

Re: HBO Doc. McMillions-Jerry Colombo and Uncle Dom

by funkster » Wed Mar 04, 2020 7:11 pm

My guess is he was a very low level associate, if that. Maybe knew some people, the doc makes him sound like he was made which he clearly wasnt.

Re: HBO Doc. McMillions-Jerry Colombo and Uncle Dom

by TwoPiece » Mon Mar 02, 2020 1:53 pm

i'm catching up on the doc now but is this jerry colombo related to joe colombo? if so, i guess being overly flashy runs in the family :lol:

Re: HBO Doc. McMillions-Jerry Colombo and Uncle Dom

by gohnjotti » Mon Mar 02, 2020 1:17 pm

Chris, I think, is still alive but inactive (he had a short lived reality show on HBO). Anthony moved to LA and wrote a book trying to vindicate his father Joe Colombo, and he passed away in 2017.

Re: HBO Doc. McMillions-Jerry Colombo and Uncle Dom

by Stroccos » Mon Mar 02, 2020 12:42 pm

gohnjotti wrote: Mon Mar 02, 2020 12:00 am
gohnjotti wrote: Fri Feb 14, 2020 10:53 am
Stroccos wrote: Fri Feb 14, 2020 9:37 am
gohnjotti wrote: Thu Feb 13, 2020 5:37 pm
Tonyd621 wrote: Thu Feb 13, 2020 1:28 pm It does not make it entirely clear that "Uncle Dom" was whacked, seems likely. Maybe, they could be talking about Donnie Montemarano and then he "disappeared" because hes still alive? Maybe? Yes? No?
Montemarano was imprisoned in ‘86. He was released from prison in the late 1990s, can’t remember the exact year, and moved straight to California.

In the podcast, Colombo’s wife directly talks about Uncle Dominick’s funeral.
remember calling someone uncle doesn't actually mean he was a uncle , yeah I agree the wife sounded kinda sketchy in the documentary
was he related to Dominik catalado ?
Cataldo was my thought but he died in 1990 and Robin didn’t marry until like ‘97.
Honestly, at this point I'm worried that Robin Colombo is making half of it up. After all, there were never any federal allegations or investigations into Jerry Colombo's actual mob ties - just his involvement in the Monopoly scam. There was no made member called Dominick LNU that was whacked in the Colombo family during the late 1990s (and this Uncle Dominick guy was implied to be Jerry's captain although, of course, they didn't use many actual LCN terms in the doc). Also very implausible that a man as wealthy as Jerry (who owned multiple nightclubs & strip clubs, and allegedly ran prostitution and bookmaking operations across South Carolina) was not referenced or picked up in any other FBI investigations into the Colombo family, in New York or otherwise. And I don't believe there is any evidence of the Colombos as a whole operating in South Carolina, apart from using the state to purchase cheap cigarettes that they re-sold in New York (a scam which has been going on since the cigarette tax was invented).

Robin really does seem like a pretty fantastical storyteller. The way she describes her life is pretty much how someone would describe Karen from Goodfellas. The only "official" information we have regarding Jerry Colombo's mob ties is from the original article on which the documentary was based, in which the journalist reportedly contacted Jerry's mother who confirmed they were cousins of Joe Colombo, the namesake mob boss. To me, the only plausible information is if Jerry's mob ties relied solely on his cousins Anthony & Chris, who were shelved from 1993-onwards and operated a relatively low-key crew that wasn't busted until 2003. Since we know pretty much nothing about the Anthony & Chris Colombo crew other than what was in the '03 idictment, since they were disconnected from the rest of the family, it would be somewhat possible that Jerry "reported" to them, for lack of a better word. I've noticed the FBI kept quiet on any real LCN allegations when they were being interviewed on the doc.

It's only until you watch a doc about a subject you know about that you realize how underdeveloped a lot of big-name projects are. You'd think they could've contacted Michael Franzese, Larry Mazza, Anthony Russo, someone. Hell, maybe the producers did and they were all given the same response; Who the fuck is Jerry Colombo?

Are either Anthony and or Chris still alive ?

Re: HBO Doc. McMillions-Jerry Colombo and Uncle Dom

by gohnjotti » Mon Mar 02, 2020 12:00 am

gohnjotti wrote: Fri Feb 14, 2020 10:53 am
Stroccos wrote: Fri Feb 14, 2020 9:37 am
gohnjotti wrote: Thu Feb 13, 2020 5:37 pm
Tonyd621 wrote: Thu Feb 13, 2020 1:28 pm It does not make it entirely clear that "Uncle Dom" was whacked, seems likely. Maybe, they could be talking about Donnie Montemarano and then he "disappeared" because hes still alive? Maybe? Yes? No?
Montemarano was imprisoned in ‘86. He was released from prison in the late 1990s, can’t remember the exact year, and moved straight to California.

In the podcast, Colombo’s wife directly talks about Uncle Dominick’s funeral.
remember calling someone uncle doesn't actually mean he was a uncle , yeah I agree the wife sounded kinda sketchy in the documentary
was he related to Dominik catalado ?
Cataldo was my thought but he died in 1990 and Robin didn’t marry until like ‘97.
Honestly, at this point I'm worried that Robin Colombo is making half of it up. After all, there were never any federal allegations or investigations into Jerry Colombo's actual mob ties - just his involvement in the Monopoly scam. There was no made member called Dominick LNU that was whacked in the Colombo family during the late 1990s (and this Uncle Dominick guy was implied to be Jerry's captain although, of course, they didn't use many actual LCN terms in the doc). Also very implausible that a man as wealthy as Jerry (who owned multiple nightclubs & strip clubs, and allegedly ran prostitution and bookmaking operations across South Carolina) was not referenced or picked up in any other FBI investigations into the Colombo family, in New York or otherwise. And I don't believe there is any evidence of the Colombos as a whole operating in South Carolina, apart from using the state to purchase cheap cigarettes that they re-sold in New York (a scam which has been going on since the cigarette tax was invented).

Robin really does seem like a pretty fantastical storyteller. The way she describes her life is pretty much how someone would describe Karen from Goodfellas. The only "official" information we have regarding Jerry Colombo's mob ties is from the original article on which the documentary was based, in which the journalist reportedly contacted Jerry's mother who confirmed they were cousins of Joe Colombo, the namesake mob boss. To me, the only plausible information is if Jerry's mob ties relied solely on his cousins Anthony & Chris, who were shelved from 1993-onwards and operated a relatively low-key crew that wasn't busted until 2003. Since we know pretty much nothing about the Anthony & Chris Colombo crew other than what was in the '03 idictment, since they were disconnected from the rest of the family, it would be somewhat possible that Jerry "reported" to them, for lack of a better word. I've noticed the FBI kept quiet on any real LCN allegations when they were being interviewed on the doc.

It's only until you watch a doc about a subject you know about that you realize how underdeveloped a lot of big-name projects are. You'd think they could've contacted Michael Franzese, Larry Mazza, Anthony Russo, someone. Hell, maybe the producers did and they were all given the same response; Who the fuck is Jerry Colombo?

Re: HBO Doc. McMillions-Jerry Colombo and Uncle Dom

by richard_belding » Sun Mar 01, 2020 11:47 pm

There are some brief perp-walk shots from what looks like the 70s in the middle of ep 2. Can anyone ID?

Re: HBO Doc. McMillions-Jerry Colombo and Uncle Dom

by gohnjotti » Fri Feb 14, 2020 10:53 am

Stroccos wrote: Fri Feb 14, 2020 9:37 am
gohnjotti wrote: Thu Feb 13, 2020 5:37 pm
Tonyd621 wrote: Thu Feb 13, 2020 1:28 pm It does not make it entirely clear that "Uncle Dom" was whacked, seems likely. Maybe, they could be talking about Donnie Montemarano and then he "disappeared" because hes still alive? Maybe? Yes? No?
Montemarano was imprisoned in ‘86. He was released from prison in the late 1990s, can’t remember the exact year, and moved straight to California.

In the podcast, Colombo’s wife directly talks about Uncle Dominick’s funeral.
remember calling someone uncle doesn't actually mean he was a uncle , yeah I agree the wife sounded kinda sketchy in the documentary
was he related to Dominik catalado ?
Cataldo was my thought but he died in 1990 and Robin didn’t marry until like ‘97.

Re: HBO Doc. McMillions-Jerry Colombo and Uncle Dom

by Stroccos » Fri Feb 14, 2020 9:37 am

gohnjotti wrote: Thu Feb 13, 2020 5:37 pm
Tonyd621 wrote: Thu Feb 13, 2020 1:28 pm It does not make it entirely clear that "Uncle Dom" was whacked, seems likely. Maybe, they could be talking about Donnie Montemarano and then he "disappeared" because hes still alive? Maybe? Yes? No?
Montemarano was imprisoned in ‘86. He was released from prison in the late 1990s, can’t remember the exact year, and moved straight to California.

In the podcast, Colombo’s wife directly talks about Uncle Dominick’s funeral.
remember calling someone uncle doesn't actually mean he was a uncle , yeah I agree the wife sounded kinda sketchy in the documentary
was he related to Dominik catalado ?

Re: HBO Doc. McMillions-Jerry Colombo and Uncle Dom

by gohnjotti » Thu Feb 13, 2020 5:37 pm

Tonyd621 wrote: Thu Feb 13, 2020 1:28 pm It does not make it entirely clear that "Uncle Dom" was whacked, seems likely. Maybe, they could be talking about Donnie Montemarano and then he "disappeared" because hes still alive? Maybe? Yes? No?
Montemarano was imprisoned in ‘86. He was released from prison in the late 1990s, can’t remember the exact year, and moved straight to California.

In the podcast, Colombo’s wife directly talks about Uncle Dominick’s funeral.

Re: HBO Doc. McMillions-Jerry Colombo and Uncle Dom

by Tonyd621 » Thu Feb 13, 2020 1:28 pm

It does not make it entirely clear that "Uncle Dom" was whacked, seems likely. Maybe, they could be talking about Donnie Montemarano and then he "disappeared" because hes still alive? Maybe? Yes? No?

Re: HBO Doc. McMillions-Jerry Colombo and Uncle Dom

by Trident » Thu Feb 13, 2020 5:12 am

gohnjotti wrote: Thu Feb 13, 2020 4:28 am There's a podcast made by the directors of McMillions as a sort-of companion series to the main show. In the second show, they interviewed Robin and it became clear that she didn't really know the difference between the "Colombo crime family" and the "Colombo family," as in Gennaro's actual blood family. Maybe I'm reading into it the wrong way, but the directors frequently ask her about what it was like living in the "Colombo crime family" and she talked about the strictness of Mr. and Mrs. Colombo (Gennaro's parents) and Gennaro's brother Frank, etc., etc. She didn't talk about the actual Colombo organized crime family.

There's the added fact, of course, that Gennaro and Robin both lived in South Carolina - never in New York. So perhaps Gennaro was only tied to the actual Colombo family, as in "Colombo crime family" soldiers Anthony & Joseph Colombo Jr., and associate Chris Colombo. That still makes him an associate of the Colombo crime family, but only through his cousins, Anthony & Joseph Jr., who were shelved during most of the 1990s.

This Uncle Dominick figure is weird, because they don't say specifically when he died - or was "whacked", but we know it was sometime in the late 1990s, because Robin had presumably married Gennaro when this happened. As far as I know, no "Dominicks" in the Colombo family died during the late 1990s. Were any known made "Dominicks" in the mob whacked during the late '90s?

It could all be horseshit by Robin.
Honestly the family members came across as bull shitters to me. Maybe they made up the name Dominick to protect the guys real identity, but these people seemed like they would have tried to connect this guy to John Gotti if they could.

Re: HBO Doc. McMillions-Jerry Colombo and Uncle Dom

by gohnjotti » Thu Feb 13, 2020 4:28 am

There's a podcast made by the directors of McMillions as a sort-of companion series to the main show. In the second show, they interviewed Robin and it became clear that she didn't really know the difference between the "Colombo crime family" and the "Colombo family," as in Gennaro's actual blood family. Maybe I'm reading into it the wrong way, but the directors frequently ask her about what it was like living in the "Colombo crime family" and she talked about the strictness of Mr. and Mrs. Colombo (Gennaro's parents) and Gennaro's brother Frank, etc., etc. She didn't talk about the actual Colombo organized crime family.

There's the added fact, of course, that Gennaro and Robin both lived in South Carolina - never in New York. So perhaps Gennaro was only tied to the actual Colombo family, as in "Colombo crime family" soldiers Anthony & Joseph Colombo Jr., and associate Chris Colombo. That still makes him an associate of the Colombo crime family, but only through his cousins, Anthony & Joseph Jr., who were shelved during most of the 1990s.

This Uncle Dominick figure is weird, because they don't say specifically when he died - or was "whacked", but we know it was sometime in the late 1990s, because Robin had presumably married Gennaro when this happened. As far as I know, no "Dominicks" in the Colombo family died during the late 1990s. Were any known made "Dominicks" in the mob whacked during the late '90s?

It could all be horseshit by Robin.

Re: HBO Doc. McMillions-Jerry Colombo and Uncle Dom

by maxiestern11 » Wed Feb 12, 2020 11:06 pm

Is colombo supposed to be related to the Colombo mob of Brooklyn?

Re: HBO Doc. McMillions-Jerry Colombo and Uncle Dom

by Uncle Pete » Wed Feb 12, 2020 9:56 pm

Very good show!

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