THE BLACK HAND FORUM

Pete wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2020 9:54 pm

Confederate wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2020 5:21 pm

Pete wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2020 5:01 pm

Confederate wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2020 3:13 pm

FriendofFamily wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2020 2:07 pm At one time some of you were going to take a trip or tour with him in Chicago.

So it is possible that I can arrange to meet with him and ask him some questions that some of you have on here.

So if you have some questions that you want asked just let me know and I will compile a list.

1). Was Joe Ferriola ever the Top Boss of the Outfit, even for a short while, before he became sick?
2). What was the exact power relationship between Accardo, Auippa & Cerone?
3). Were his Father & his Uncle Nick 50/50 partners?
4). Did Angelo LaPietra "loan" money to his Father & Uncle at a low interest rate so they could put it out on the street?

I don’t get the ferriola thing keep coming up. Nick calabrese who was a made member said he never was. Aiuppa then carlisi. That’s one of those things people won’t let go of for whatever reason

Roemer, The F.B.I. Agent, said Ferriola was Boss for a short while so I would like to hear what Frank Sr. thinks about it & why the F.B.I had that idea?
Is that okay with you? Maybe next time I'll ask you for your approval of any of my questions before I submit them.

I wasn’t attacking you take it easy but most of the questions you asked I could answer for you. The only one I could pass on is number 2 but the rest of your questions were all addressed by Nick calabrese in his testimony which I have. Frank and nick were not 50/50 Nick was paid a salary of 3 grand a month which jimmy lapietra made frank start paying him 4 grand a month in 88 I think. That’s all he ever got never even a percentage of anything. When frank was first whistled in by Angelo he was given more money to put on the street in a addition to what he had out there. After that it was all franks and frank kicked up a portion to Angelo every month. At one point just from frank, Angelo was getting between 15-20 grand a month. Frank was supposed to give Angelo half of what he made but always held out

FriendofFamily wrote: ↑Tue Mar 03, 2020 8:56 am

Frank wrote: ↑Tue Mar 03, 2020 8:51 am I wonder when Friend of Family is meeting with Calabrese Jr?? Hope it's still happening.

I will have to give him a call - I just got busy at work and haven't gotten around to it yet.

FriendofFamily wrote: ↑Tue Mar 03, 2020 8:56 am

Frank wrote: ↑Tue Mar 03, 2020 8:51 am I wonder when Friend of Family is meeting with Calabrese Jr?? Hope it's still happening.

I will have to give him a call - I just got busy at work and haven't gotten around to it yet.

Frank wrote: ↑Tue Mar 03, 2020 8:51 am I wonder when Friend of Family is meeting with Calabrese Jr?? Hope it's still happening.

Frank wrote: ↑Wed Jan 22, 2020 11:37 pm

Villain wrote: ↑Wed Jan 22, 2020 8:37 am I think that this whole family thing is a littile bit of a "jing-jang" situation, meaning one long time Outfit boss, who in turn was also a "good" parent and a family guy and even though one of his kids was never involed in the life, still he became a hippie and later ended up being a junkie. In the end that same Outfit boss was against narcotics for real and ordered a lot of hits because of that same personal situation...

Was it Accardos son? Also didn't Riccas son die from drugs?

Villain wrote: ↑Wed Jan 22, 2020 8:37 am I think that this whole family thing is a littile bit of a "jing-jang" situation, meaning one long time Outfit boss, who in turn was also a "good" parent and a family guy and even though one of his kids was never involed in the life, still he became a hippie and later ended up being a junkie. In the end that same Outfit boss was against narcotics for real and ordered a lot of hits because of that same personal situation...

Villain wrote: ↑Wed Jan 22, 2020 11:39 am Not DiFronzo, although the individual that im talking about came from that same crew

Villain wrote: ↑Wed Jan 22, 2020 1:15 am

Frank wrote: ↑Tue Jan 21, 2020 9:27 pm Also LaPietra saying that it was a cardinal sin and should have been dealt with, about Frank Snr bringing his sons into the life. I got to believe there was no Outfit rule against that. Nothing has ever come up about Lee Magnifichi bringing his son Mike into the life. Mike was the driver and golfing partners with several of the bosses when he was young.

Same story goes with the Carusos, DiCaros or Nuzzos and many other members from different Chicago Italian families, especially from the old days. Even some of the non-Italian members of the Outfit did the same thing, such as the Curry and the Guzik families, meaning they brought their own sons into the life, like for example after his father's death which occurred in 1970, Robert Curry inherited his dad's interests around Joliet and Will County

Villain wrote: ↑Wed Jan 22, 2020 8:37 am I think that this whole family thing is a littile bit of a "jing-jang" situation, meaning one long time Outfit boss, who in turn was also a "good" parent and a family guy and even though one of his kids was never involed in the life, still he became a hippie and later ended up being a junkie. In the end that same Outfit boss was against narcotics for real and ordered a lot of hits because of that same personal situation...

Pete wrote: ↑Wed Jan 22, 2020 7:28 am

Frank wrote: ↑Tue Jan 21, 2020 9:27 pm 2 side notes that have been brought up. First, I wonder if Roemers CI at that meeting is the same CI and one of the two that came up in the Sarno case. Also LaPietra saying that it was a cardinal sin and should have been dealt with, about Frank Snr bringing his sons into the life. I got to believe there was no Outfit rule against that. Nothing has ever come up about Lee Magnifichi bringing his son Mike into the life. Mike was the driver and golfing partners with several of the bosses when he was young.

Actually something did come up about that. Difronzo said lee was wrong for bringing michael into the life. Obviously there was no set rule against in general but bringing your kid into the life was more the exception than the rule

Frank wrote: ↑Tue Jan 21, 2020 9:27 pm 2 side notes that have been brought up. First, I wonder if Roemers CI at that meeting is the same CI and one of the two that came up in the Sarno case. Also LaPietra saying that it was a cardinal sin and should have been dealt with, about Frank Snr bringing his sons into the life. I got to believe there was no Outfit rule against that. Nothing has ever come up about Lee Magnifichi bringing his son Mike into the life. Mike was the driver and golfing partners with several of the bosses when he was young.