by Adam » Sat Dec 14, 2019 3:55 am
JCB1977 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 13, 2019 1:45 pm
Adam wrote: ↑Fri Dec 13, 2019 11:53 am
JCB1977 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 9:39 pm
maxiestern11 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 7:08 pm
Nepa31 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 7:02 pm
JeremyTheJew wrote: ↑Wed Dec 11, 2019 4:46 pm
Wow. Didn't realize Youngstown had so much going on. Guess why it was nicknamed mafia town....
Napa... U said if Joey Naples allowed buffalino... Wouldn't it more be the other way around....?
Technically Naples was only a soldier even tho really a capo as well as a "territory boss"
Yes and No. I think regardless of rank Youngstown was Youngstown’s. By that I mean they would work with other families in a mutually beneficial situation but they weren’t going to let someone from another family outearn them in their town. D’elia was a whiz when it came to the garbage business and in the end of Bufalino’s time on the street it allowed them to make huge money once the garment business declined and the number of envelopes coming Bufalino’s way was shrinking by the day.
Don’t sleep on how much action was going on in Youngstown back then fellas. Tons of money changing hands and bodies dropping like flies. I’ve heard a few stories from Dickie. If any of those guys were anything like him it’s a scary thought. Absolute stone cold maniac.
I’m coming in late here, but Bufalino did NOT run Youngstown. Different crews, he had no jurisdiction there. He may have did a few deals there (with approval I might add). But his was Pittston-Scranton, and the general Binghamton area and parts of upstate NY.... period!
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Same as any crew. You just don’t decide to tread over other people “property” and area
Youngstown wasn’t its own entity. In the 1960’s, there were representatives from Cleveland, Pittsburgh, Buffalo and Detroit all living in Youngstown and kicking their earnings up to the bosses in their families. By the 70’s, Pittsburgh and Vlebeland has made guys running their territories. Pittsburgh and Cleveland Mob families worked very close with Detroit, Buffalo, Scranton/Wiles-Barre/Pittston and Philly. Guys like Bufalino, Mannarino, Angelo Lonardo, Zerilli and Maggadino all came from the same background, many of them had mutual interests...especially the Sans Souci Hotel & Casino in Havana. The greater Youngstown area was divided in two territories with Pittsburgh controlling a majority of it by 1980. Pittsburgh also controlled parts of Western New York/into Erie, PA, Wherling, WV and all of Western PA. That’s a vast territory. But Youngstown was never its own entity.
Yeah it's fascinating how many LCN families had things going on in the Youngstown area. Detroit soldier Nick Ditta got caught on an illegal wiretap talking about his involvement in the 1960s Youngstown violence. He essentially took "credit" for the Cavallaro bombing. He may have just been boasting, but it's interesting.
Took credit for the Cavallaro bombing?
Yeah he tells the story of planting the bomb on Cavallaro's car in the garage, mentions seeing one of the sons, almost getting caught, and witnessing the actual explosion. He adds in some details that don't match what actually happened, so he either is changing the story while describing it or he's just making the whole thing up. But Ditta was definitely in Youngstown around the time Cavallaro was killed and they definitely knew each other.
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Wow. Didn't realize Youngstown had so much going on. Guess why it was nicknamed mafia town....
Napa... U said if Joey Naples allowed buffalino... Wouldn't it more be the other way around....?
Technically Naples was only a soldier even tho really a capo as well as a "territory boss"
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Yes and No. I think regardless of rank Youngstown was Youngstown’s. By that I mean they would work with other families in a mutually beneficial situation but they weren’t going to let someone from another family outearn them in their town. D’elia was a whiz when it came to the garbage business and in the end of Bufalino’s time on the street it allowed them to make huge money once the garment business declined and the number of envelopes coming Bufalino’s way was shrinking by the day.
Don’t sleep on how much action was going on in Youngstown back then fellas. Tons of money changing hands and bodies dropping like flies. I’ve heard a few stories from Dickie. If any of those guys were anything like him it’s a scary thought. Absolute stone cold maniac.
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I’m coming in late here, but Bufalino did NOT run Youngstown. Different crews, he had no jurisdiction there. He may have did a few deals there (with approval I might add). But his was Pittston-Scranton, and the general Binghamton area and parts of upstate NY.... period!
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Same as any crew. You just don’t decide to tread over other people “property” and area
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Youngstown wasn’t its own entity. In the 1960’s, there were representatives from Cleveland, Pittsburgh, Buffalo and Detroit all living in Youngstown and kicking their earnings up to the bosses in their families. By the 70’s, Pittsburgh and Vlebeland has made guys running their territories. Pittsburgh and Cleveland Mob families worked very close with Detroit, Buffalo, Scranton/Wiles-Barre/Pittston and Philly. Guys like Bufalino, Mannarino, Angelo Lonardo, Zerilli and Maggadino all came from the same background, many of them had mutual interests...especially the Sans Souci Hotel & Casino in Havana. The greater Youngstown area was divided in two territories with Pittsburgh controlling a majority of it by 1980. Pittsburgh also controlled parts of Western New York/into Erie, PA, Wherling, WV and all of Western PA. That’s a vast territory. But Youngstown was never its own entity.
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Yeah it's fascinating how many LCN families had things going on in the Youngstown area. Detroit soldier Nick Ditta got caught on an illegal wiretap talking about his involvement in the 1960s Youngstown violence. He essentially took "credit" for the Cavallaro bombing. He may have just been boasting, but it's interesting.
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Took credit for the Cavallaro bombing?
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Yeah he tells the story of planting the bomb on Cavallaro's car in the garage, mentions seeing one of the sons, almost getting caught, and witnessing the actual explosion. He adds in some details that don't match what actually happened, so he either is changing the story while describing it or he's just making the whole thing up. But Ditta was definitely in Youngstown around the time Cavallaro was killed and they definitely knew each other.