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Re: 1979 Ravenite Surveillance

by maxiestern11 » Tue Dec 03, 2019 5:19 pm

Ozgoz wrote: ↑Tue Dec 03, 2019 1:42 pm Unbelievable that the Bonanno’s thought it ok to shoot round to the ravenite to inform Dellacroce the hit came off.
Talk about unnecessary co-conspiratory. I suppose this was a sign of the times as they hadn’t yet received the onslaught from the feds that the 80s would bring and they thought they could still get away with operating in plain view.
Agreed

Re: 1979 Ravenite Surveillance

by Ozgoz » Tue Dec 03, 2019 1:42 pm

Unbelievable that the Bonanno’s thought it ok to shoot round to the ravenite to inform Dellacroce the hit came off.
Talk about unnecessary co-conspiratory. I suppose this was a sign of the times as they hadn’t yet received the onslaught from the feds that the 80s would bring and they thought they could still get away with operating in plain view.

Re: 1979 Ravenite Surveillance

by TwoPiece » Tue Dec 03, 2019 12:33 pm

mafiastudent wrote: ↑Tue Dec 03, 2019 12:21 pm
TwoPiece wrote: ↑Tue Dec 03, 2019 12:10 pm
mafiastudent wrote: ↑Tue Dec 03, 2019 11:35 am
TwoPiece wrote: ↑Tue Dec 03, 2019 11:14 am do you mind sharing where you got the news clips from? i remember an old archive, i think nbc universal or something along those lines, where they had old news videos of vito genovese and the chin talking to reporters. i tried to see the videos again a couple months ago and now you need media credentials so i'm wondering if you have something like that?
Are you talking about this?

https://www.nbcnewsarchivesxpress.com/s ... ntenttype=

I have NBC Media credentials but I just looked and couldn't find any archival stuff even when I clicked into NBC Universal.
Nah they were on this site

https://www.nbcuniarchives.com/login

They had videos of Chin and Vito in court and both vids had audio of them speaking
I just registered using my credentials so we'll see what they say and if they give me access. Would be interesting to see for sure.
nice, this will be like waiting for christmas as a kid. :lol:

Re: 1979 Ravenite Surveillance

by mafiastudent » Tue Dec 03, 2019 12:21 pm

TwoPiece wrote: ↑Tue Dec 03, 2019 12:10 pm
mafiastudent wrote: ↑Tue Dec 03, 2019 11:35 am
TwoPiece wrote: ↑Tue Dec 03, 2019 11:14 am do you mind sharing where you got the news clips from? i remember an old archive, i think nbc universal or something along those lines, where they had old news videos of vito genovese and the chin talking to reporters. i tried to see the videos again a couple months ago and now you need media credentials so i'm wondering if you have something like that?
Are you talking about this?

https://www.nbcnewsarchivesxpress.com/s ... ntenttype=

I have NBC Media credentials but I just looked and couldn't find any archival stuff even when I clicked into NBC Universal.
Nah they were on this site

https://www.nbcuniarchives.com/login

They had videos of Chin and Vito in court and both vids had audio of them speaking
I just registered using my credentials so we'll see what they say and if they give me access. Would be interesting to see for sure.

Re: 1979 Ravenite Surveillance

by TwoPiece » Tue Dec 03, 2019 12:10 pm

mafiastudent wrote: ↑Tue Dec 03, 2019 11:35 am
TwoPiece wrote: ↑Tue Dec 03, 2019 11:14 am do you mind sharing where you got the news clips from? i remember an old archive, i think nbc universal or something along those lines, where they had old news videos of vito genovese and the chin talking to reporters. i tried to see the videos again a couple months ago and now you need media credentials so i'm wondering if you have something like that?
Are you talking about this?

https://www.nbcnewsarchivesxpress.com/s ... ntenttype=

I have NBC Media credentials but I just looked and couldn't find any archival stuff even when I clicked into NBC Universal.
Nah they were on this site

https://www.nbcuniarchives.com/login

They had videos of Chin and Vito in court and both vids had audio of them speaking

Re: 1979 Ravenite Surveillance

by mafiastudent » Tue Dec 03, 2019 11:35 am

TwoPiece wrote: ↑Tue Dec 03, 2019 11:14 am do you mind sharing where you got the news clips from? i remember an old archive, i think nbc universal or something along those lines, where they had old news videos of vito genovese and the chin talking to reporters. i tried to see the videos again a couple months ago and now you need media credentials so i'm wondering if you have something like that?
Are you talking about this?

https://www.nbcnewsarchivesxpress.com/s ... ntenttype=

I have NBC Media credentials but I just looked and couldn't find any archival stuff even when I clicked into NBC Universal.

Re: 1979 Ravenite Surveillance

by JMAN723 » Tue Dec 03, 2019 11:34 am

TwoPiece wrote: ↑Tue Dec 03, 2019 11:14 am do you mind sharing where you got the news clips from? i remember an old archive, i think nbc universal or something along those lines, where they had old news videos of vito genovese and the chin talking to reporters. i tried to see the videos again a couple months ago and now you need media credentials so i'm wondering if you have something like that?

Sure. Some came from video tapes I had. My was actually a cop during the 70's and 80's and my parents would tape the news often especially if it dealt with organized crime stuff. The other videos came from old documentaries from the 90's I had. However that new Gotti documentary featuring Junior that came out last year had some newer surveillance that I also put together

Re: 1979 Ravenite Surveillance

by TwoPiece » Tue Dec 03, 2019 11:14 am

do you mind sharing where you got the news clips from? i remember an old archive, i think nbc universal or something along those lines, where they had old news videos of vito genovese and the chin talking to reporters. i tried to see the videos again a couple months ago and now you need media credentials so i'm wondering if you have something like that?

Re: 1979 Ravenite Surveillance

by JMAN723 » Tue Dec 03, 2019 9:28 am

Ozgoz wrote: ↑Tue Dec 03, 2019 8:27 am Sounds good, post away.
Thanks Man, will do!! Below is what Ive gathered from many documentaries and news broadcasts over the years. Unfortunetly I haven't been able to indentify everyone on here but I will give brief description of the date and which mobsters are present along with what might have bene going on around that time. Like I mentioned in my first post if anybody has any additional information feel free to et me know!!

April 10, 1979- This video has a lot of guys on it some who I have identified and some I haven't yet. Anyway One clip has Gotti exited the club with a lot of guys. One guy directly behind him is Willie Boy Johnson. They spend some time talking before walking away. Another clip shows Armand "Buddy" Dellacroe talking to an unidentified man outide the club and Eventually walking away.


April 11, 1979- Short clip of Neil standing right inside the doorway of the club

May 10, 1979- John Gotti and Angelo Ruggiero talking outisde the club. Later on Gene Gotti appears

May 14, 1979- Neil Dellacroce holding court outside the club with several guys including his son Buddy. Two days Later Neil is arrestedfor the murder of Charles "Charlie the Bear" Calise. Tony Plate is also arrested in Florida for participating in the murder. Later that August the Bergin crew kill Plate and Neil is eventually beats the case.

June 14, 1979- Short clip of Gotti talking to I believe Joe "the Cat" Laforte

July 12, 1979- This took place after the Galante hit. Sonny red Indelicato, Joe Indelicato, Bruno Indelicato, and Phil "lucky" Giaccone go to te ravenite to report to Neil that the Galante hit was a success. Not sure who else was at the club. However I did read that according to informants Gotti was on vacation when this occurred but not positive about that.

July 30, 1979- Short Clip of Gotti hanging outside the club talking to Angelo and Joe "the Cat" Laforte

August 3, 1979- Very brief clip and I havent been able to indentify who was in this particular video.

Anyway thats what have so far. Its taken a long time to edit but when I finish I will be sure to post. Thanks Guys!!

Re: 1979 Ravenite Surveillance

by TwoPiece » Tue Dec 03, 2019 9:28 am

i think it's safe to say we'd all love to see this

Re: 1979 Ravenite Surveillance

by Ozgoz » Tue Dec 03, 2019 8:27 am

Sounds good, post away.

1979 Ravenite Surveillance

by JMAN723 » Mon Dec 02, 2019 7:57 pm

Hello I’m new the forums but have been working on a project for about the last year. I have been accumulating specific surveillance from the Ravenite Club that took place roughly from April-August 1979. Everyone from Neil Dellacroce, the Gotti brothers, Angelo Ruggiero, Willie Boy Johnson, Buddy Dellacroce appear. If you want I can post specific dates and which mobsters appear. I am trying to finish but work had been busy but I will post when I finish editing it. Feel free to add Any information or feedback you may have. Thanks Guys!!

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