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Re: Angelo and Philip Meli?

by AlexfromSouth » Sat Jun 13, 2015 11:38 am

Ed wrote:"Flowers By Charm" was located at 197 Avenue T, Brooklyn, N.Y.

Nice ED,do you know the guys who killed him?Thank you

Re: Angelo and Philip Meli?

by Ed » Sat Jun 13, 2015 8:31 am

"Flowers By Charm" was located at 197 Avenue T, Brooklyn, N.Y.

Re: Angelo and Philip Meli?

by AlexfromSouth » Sat Jun 13, 2015 7:45 am

Ed wrote:I was just checking my old notes on an article I wrote partly about Santantonio. At the time of Santantonio's murder, Scarpa told the FBI that the government “was planning to back up Valachi’s testimony with testimony from Santantonio.” By killing Santantonio, the Mafia hoped the government “would not be able to use Valachi now because we got rid of their corroborator.”

Where was this flower shop he was killed at,do you know?
Thanks

Re: Angelo and Philip Meli?

by Ed » Sat Jun 13, 2015 7:22 am

I was just checking my old notes on an article I wrote partly about Santantonio. At the time of Santantonio's murder, Scarpa told the FBI that the government “was planning to back up Valachi’s testimony with testimony from Santantonio.” By killing Santantonio, the Mafia hoped the government “would not be able to use Valachi now because we got rid of their corroborator.”

Re: Angelo and Philip Meli?

by Ed » Sat Jun 13, 2015 6:34 am

JD wrote:
Ed wrote: that's correct. Santantonio was killed in 1963. Scarpa told the FBI that Meli was involved in the murder, although I don't know if that was ever confirmed.
The Santantonio murder is one of those cases where they had the guys responsible for the murder dead to rights, except that the wiretap evidence ended up inadmissible. They recorded Peter Ferrara planning the murder and assigning the different roles in the hit. An associate in the crew was tapped to be the shooter but wound up jailed on an unrelated pretext on the day of the murder. Most of the guys involved are the same ones mentioned later by Gravano as being in on murders under Aurello.

It's also interesting how little attention Santantonio received. This was the Gambino's own Scarpa, potentially their own Valachi, and unlike the other informants this one was found out (from an LE source or otherwise), successfully killed and the confirmed participants got away with it.
Thanks for the clarification. The "Gambino's own Scarpa" is a good way of putting it. Does anyone know if Valachi had a reaction to his murder? Sanatanotnio was widely assumed on the street to have been an informant, and it happened just before Valachi testified. Bobby Kennedy must have used all his influence to mostly bury this story.

Re: Angelo and Philip Meli?

by AlexfromSouth » Sat Jun 13, 2015 3:10 am

JD wrote:
Ed wrote: that's correct. Santantonio was killed in 1963. Scarpa told the FBI that Meli was involved in the murder, although I don't know if that was ever confirmed.
The Santantonio murder is one of those cases where they had the guys responsible for the murder dead to rights, except that the wiretap evidence ended up inadmissible. They recorded Peter Ferrara planning the murder and assigning the different roles in the hit. An associate in the crew was tapped to be the shooter but wound up jailed on an unrelated pretext on the day of the murder. Most of the guys involved are the same ones mentioned later by Gravano as being in on murders under Aurello.

It's also interesting how little attention Santantonio received. This was the Gambino's own Scarpa, potentially their own Valachi, and unlike the other informants this one was found out (from an LE source or otherwise), successfully killed and the confirmed participants got away with it.

That is very interesting what you are saying JD thanks,tell me please who were the guys mentioned by Gravano that carried out the hit on Santantonio?The guys that were under Aurello.
Thank you

Re: Angelo and Philip Meli?

by LcnBios » Fri Jun 12, 2015 3:01 pm

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Re: Angelo and Philip Meli?

by bronx » Fri Jun 12, 2015 5:45 am

yes H

Re: Angelo and Philip Meli?

by AlexfromSouth » Fri Jun 12, 2015 12:20 am

In jail for narcotics Bronx?

Re: Angelo and Philip Meli?

by bronx » Thu Jun 11, 2015 7:31 pm

phil was a school bus driver, angelo was going to be killed by paul c when he came home from prison..he must have been happy paul got clipped..they use to own a great foccaria on 12th st nyc

Re: Angelo and Philip Meli?

by AlexfromSouth » Thu Jun 11, 2015 4:30 pm

Also im interested if any of the soldiers in Jerome D'Aquilas and lilos crew were South Brooklyn (Red hook,Gowanus,Park Slope,etc.) based or from that area..?
Thanks again.

Re: Angelo and Philip Meli?

by AlexfromSouth » Thu Jun 11, 2015 4:25 pm

Ed wrote:
AlexfromSouth wrote:
Ed wrote:Angelo Meli was said to have participated in the murder of Gambino Crime Family member-informant Alfredo Santantonio.

Are you talking about the murder that brooklyn based capo Peter Ferrara was involved in the early 60s?Something like 1962 or 1964.

that's correct. Santantonio was killed in 1963. Scarpa told the FBI that Meli was involved in the murder, although I don't know if that was ever confirmed.
Thought so,just found something about their father.Came from Sicily to meet with his brother on 1st ave in the Lower east side but eventually settled in Staten Island.So im guessing Angelo and Philip were originaly Staten Island guys,just like Tommy Bilotti and his brothers.At least I think so,anybody with a difrent opinion please speak up
Thanks Ed

Re: Angelo and Philip Meli?

by Ed » Thu Jun 11, 2015 3:47 pm

AlexfromSouth wrote:
Ed wrote:Angelo Meli was said to have participated in the murder of Gambino Crime Family member-informant Alfredo Santantonio.

Are you talking about the murder that brooklyn based capo Peter Ferrara was involved in the early 60s?Something like 1962 or 1964.

that's correct. Santantonio was killed in 1963. Scarpa told the FBI that Meli was involved in the murder, although I don't know if that was ever confirmed.

Re: Angelo and Philip Meli?

by AlexfromSouth » Thu Jun 11, 2015 2:02 pm

Ed wrote:Angelo Meli was said to have participated in the murder of Gambino Crime Family member-informant Alfredo Santantonio.

Are you talking about the murder that brooklyn based capo Peter Ferrara was involved in the early 60s?Something like 1962 or 1964.

Re: Angelo and Philip Meli?

by AlexfromSouth » Thu Jun 11, 2015 2:00 pm

Pogo The Clown wrote:Their father, Giosue Meli, was an early member of the D'Aquila/Gambino family. He died in 1973.


Pogo

Yes I remmber that now,from the chart section..Were they Lower east side guys or Bensonhurst guys?Seem to remmember reading somewhere that one of those two (Angelo or Philip)had an adress on 17th or 15th ave in Bhurst.Any thoughts on that Pogo?
Thanks.

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