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davidf1989 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 21, 2021 2:39 pm

Extortion wrote: ↑Mon Jun 21, 2021 2:23 pm Nicky Bianco was known to be very articulate and intelligent, he was also capable of work. I think this made him an asset. Read his FBI wiretaps from the 1960s..

thanks for the background information on Bianco and I wonder why junior Patriarca was chosen to be the boss after his father's death. when Bianco would have made a better candidate

In addition to being intelligent, he was also an asshole at times. Bad disposition, always thought he was being slighted or disrespected for the littlest shit. Of course I was a young kid at the time but that was my perception. I know a few other people shared that view. Maybe that was a factor, who knows

The earlier link was a breakdown of two bugged conversations between Bianco and Patriarca in 1963 and 1964.

Here is a thread about Bianco's induction/transfer:

https://theblackhand.club/forum/viewtop ... 18&p=64468

I read bianco was in prison for tax evasion when Ray sr died.

I seem to recall reading, although I cant remember where, that Bianco was put/sent with the Gallos originally by Patriaca to oversee their mutual/joint interests in the jukebox/vending industry.

Extortion wrote: ↑Mon Jun 21, 2021 2:23 pm Nicky Bianco was known to be very articulate and intelligent, he was also capable of work. I think this made him an asset. Read his FBI wiretaps from the 1960s..

Do you have a link?

Extortion wrote: ↑Mon Jun 21, 2021 2:23 pm Nicky Bianco was known to be very articulate and intelligent, he was also capable of work. I think this made him an asset. Read his FBI wiretaps from the 1960s..

thanks for the background information on Bianco and I wonder why junior Patriarca was chosen to be the boss after his father's death. when Bianco would have made a better candidate

Nicky Bianco was known to be very articulate and intelligent, he was also capable of work. I think this made him an asset. Read his FBI wiretaps from the 1960s..

This thread was created six years ago, surprised to see it bumped. Still haven't seen any answers on how Bianco first earned the trust/respect of the Colombo family. We have since learned that Patriarca inducted associates of other groups into his family and transferred them (i.e. Genovese Springfield members), but in that case they were originally associates of the family they ended up with. Bianco was a Patriarca associate originally, so still a mystery how/why the Colombo family accepted him so quickly and easily.

i think the books in nyc were closed so they had ray go down the manhattan i think its was patsys restaurant or something close in a big place in midtown/ he inducts nick then transfers him to the colombos. carlo gambino must have oked it

how close was Louis Manocchio to Raymond Patriarca, Bianco and Salemme?

Oh yea I'm not refuting the fact he was recognized as a Colombo.

I just still wonder why it was Ray that made him, and by the sounds of their conversations they were more than close. I don't think Ray talked like that to all his soldiers, they just seemed too close for it to be a soldier/boss relationship, know what I mean? I know back then the bosses were not worried about insulating themselves from orders, etc. but why would Ray intercede, make someone, etc. if they were not close? Nobody in Rhode Island vouched for Nicky but Ray (we think) and Ray showed his power by getting him made when the books were closed, and the fact he asked the Commission to have him made and was granted that. I'm sure there were better choices to have someone look over the Gallo's too than Bianco, I'm not saying he was a bad choice or wasn't respected because I think he was, by why him and not say a Capo both sides respected because you know the Gallo's weren't after everybody. Some Capos I'm sure were on their side either quietly or was out in the open about it? I don't know the whole story behind that though.

Something I did like though is it seems even Bianco figured out right away that not all of that crew was bad. He told Ray something about it only seemed Joey was the only one hungry for power and was wild (something to that affect) and that was sometime right before Ray told him if they gave him any shit to kill them or let him know and he would send some folks down there.

Man I would kill for a book on just Bianco but I don't think anybody knows about him. Just think, he would have probably gotten out if it wasn't for the ALS. I think he only had 11 years on his sentence right?

dixiemafia wrote: That's what I always wondered. He was either a Colombo that worked a lot with Ray and got his respect, or he was either a RI guy that Ray used to help the Colombo's for some reason and like you say why would the Gallo's be following him?

Honestly I'm not sure we'll ever find out. I find Bianco's route very interesting and wished we knew more.

Bianco was 100% recognized as a member of the Colombos in the 1960s and early 70s, that much we know.

And Pogo, that would definitely explain something if Bianco was related to an older Colombo member.

B. wrote:You could be onto something about his early ties to Patriarca and that family (would make more sense than if he was just some unconnected guy who went to NY), but he was definitely a Colombo member and captain during the 1960s and early 70s. If he was brought in to help mediate the problem within the Colombos, the question is why him? What about this kid from Rhode Island would mean anything to a bunch of guys who lived in a South Brooklyn bubble?

That's what I always wondered. He was either a Colombo that worked a lot with Ray and got his respect, or he was either a RI guy that Ray used to help the Colombo's for some reason and like you say why would the Gallo's be following him?

Honestly I'm not sure we'll ever find out. I find Bianco's route very interesting and wished we knew more.

According to the info JD discovered Bianco was made sometime during Magliocco's reign, promoted to Capo in 1970, demoted in 1971 and trasfered to the Patriarca's in 1973.


Also this may be nothing but there was a Salvatore Bianco (born in 1900) who was an early member of the Colombo family. Perhaps he is a relative of Nicky Bianco? It would explain his connections to this family.


Pogo