THE BLACK HAND FORUM

Niagarafalls wrote: ↑Sun Oct 13, 2019 5:46 pm They sell their pizzas to the Bills, Sabres, and Bisons. Has to be a ton of money involved for all 3

Lupara wrote: ↑Sun Oct 13, 2019 5:24 am

AntComello wrote:

Lupara wrote: ↑Fri Oct 11, 2019 4:29 pm It's without question Todaro is in full control of Buffalo. You don't act so cool on camera to some random pizza dude if you've not completely solidified your position in the underworld stretching from Buffalo into Canada.

All kidding aside, these mob guys often have lots of charm and feel comfortable being on camera. Just look at video footage of Genovese, Bonanno, Merlino or of DiFronzo being randomly harrashed and acting cool and like a gentleman. Obviously Todaro puts a lot of time in his legitimate business and therefore being in contact with his customers on a daily basis and being social is part of his job as he's the face of his franchise. That still doesn't mean he's completely out of the game. As a matter of fact the rules of the Mafia are that you can't go out (unless you buy yourself out with millions and become a pastor but those are exceptions to the rule). I still find it believable that New York may have asked him to promote Violi so he could run the show in Canada and that he had to oblige as he will always be part of that life as long as he's alive, legitimate, retired or not.

I think all the publicity that he’s been getting might come back to haunt him...that’s if he has anything to hide

I don't think he'll take these risks if he still has illegal income to hide. Why jeopordise such a succesful legal business with some petty crime? But as a made member and (former) boss of Buffalo's crime family with active remnants in Canada I would be suprised if he has no more contacts/relationships with his old friends. Within the mob he will continue to be recognised as a member and possibly still as a boss. Technically he's not breaking the law by just being in contact with people such as Violi as long as he's not directly involved in illegal rackets. But if he is still recognised as a boss within the mob which imo is likely the case only he could formally promote Violi hence the meeting in Florida.

Lupara wrote: ↑Sun Oct 13, 2019 5:24 am

AntComello wrote:

Lupara wrote: ↑Fri Oct 11, 2019 4:29 pm It's without question Todaro is in full control of Buffalo. You don't act so cool on camera to some random pizza dude if you've not completely solidified your position in the underworld stretching from Buffalo into Canada.

All kidding aside, these mob guys often have lots of charm and feel comfortable being on camera. Just look at video footage of Genovese, Bonanno, Merlino or of DiFronzo being randomly harrashed and acting cool and like a gentleman. Obviously Todaro puts a lot of time in his legitimate business and therefore being in contact with his customers on a daily basis and being social is part of his job as he's the face of his franchise. That still doesn't mean he's completely out of the game. As a matter of fact the rules of the Mafia are that you can't go out (unless you buy yourself out with millions and become a pastor but those are exceptions to the rule). I still find it believable that New York may have asked him to promote Violi so he could run the show in Canada and that he had to oblige as he will always be part of that life as long as he's alive, legitimate, retired or not.

I think all the publicity that he’s been getting might come back to haunt him...that’s if he has anything to hide

I don't think he'll take these risks if he still has illegal income to hide. Why jeopordise such a succesful legal business with some petty crime? But as a made member and (former) boss of Buffalo's crime family with active remnants in Canada I would be suprised if he has no more contacts/relationships with his old friends. Within the mob he will continue to be recognised as a member and possibly still as a boss. Technically he's not breaking the law by just being in contact with people such as Violi as long as he's not directly involved in illegal rackets. But if he is still recognised as a boss within the mob which imo is likely the case only he could formally promote Violi hence the meeting in Florida.

AntComello wrote:

Lupara wrote: ↑Fri Oct 11, 2019 4:29 pm It's without question Todaro is in full control of Buffalo. You don't act so cool on camera to some random pizza dude if you've not completely solidified your position in the underworld stretching from Buffalo into Canada.

All kidding aside, these mob guys often have lots of charm and feel comfortable being on camera. Just look at video footage of Genovese, Bonanno, Merlino or of DiFronzo being randomly harrashed and acting cool and like a gentleman. Obviously Todaro puts a lot of time in his legitimate business and therefore being in contact with his customers on a daily basis and being social is part of his job as he's the face of his franchise. That still doesn't mean he's completely out of the game. As a matter of fact the rules of the Mafia are that you can't go out (unless you buy yourself out with millions and become a pastor but those are exceptions to the rule). I still find it believable that New York may have asked him to promote Violi so he could run the show in Canada and that he had to oblige as he will always be part of that life as long as he's alive, legitimate, retired or not.

I think all the publicity that he’s been getting might come back to haunt him...that’s if he has anything to hide

johnny_scootch wrote: ↑Thu Oct 10, 2019 6:24 pm You don't have to be Italian to make good pizza (this is coming from an italian) it's just somewhat more authentic. Good technique and superb ingredients is what it takes. Everyone has their own point of view but someone said NY pizza is shit and that's laughable. NYC is the beating heart of the pizza world..not naples not chicago not anywhere else. It's here and always will be and this is not an opinion it's a fact. I'd have to scroll up to see who said that but I'd like to know which NYC places you've eaten at to come to that conclusion. I realize it's an opinion and but anyone who knows anything about pizza would never say something as absurd as that. I've had almost every kind of pizza imaginable even with pineapple on it which most people loathe but if its done right (with ham, speck or guanciale) I'll eat it. Not sure if I've mentioned it but I fucking love pizza. Anyone who is up for it I'll be at the pizza expo in vegas this coming april. Pizza all day, cocaine and hookers all night and if I have any money left I might find some time to gamble.

Love how Jersey thinks its NY lol but you can be sure I'll get my hands on that mustard pizza because that's actually something I've never had, I appreciate the suggestion. Great topic.

Lupara wrote: ↑Fri Oct 11, 2019 4:29 pm It's without question Todaro is in full control of Buffalo. You don't act so cool on camera to some random pizza dude if you've not completely solidified your position in the underworld stretching from Buffalo into Canada.

All kidding aside, these mob guys often have lots of charm and feel comfortable being on camera. Just look at video footage of Genovese, Bonanno, Merlino or of DiFronzo being randomly harrashed and acting cool and like a gentleman. Obviously Todaro puts a lot of time in his legitimate business and therefore being in contact with his customers on a daily basis and being social is part of his job as he's the face of his franchise. That still doesn't mean he's completely out of the game. As a matter of fact the rules of the Mafia are that you can't go out (unless you buy yourself out with millions and become a pastor but those are exceptions to the rule). I still find it believable that New York may have asked him to promote Violi so he could run the show in Canada and that he had to oblige as he will always be part of that life as long as he's alive, legitimate, retired or not.

JCB1977 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 10, 2019 7:00 am

mafiastudent wrote: ↑Wed Oct 09, 2019 10:59 pm

Frank wrote: ↑Wed Oct 09, 2019 12:53 pm

NJShore4Life wrote: ↑Wed Oct 09, 2019 8:34 am That pizza looked like absolute shit, like something ordered from Dominos.

I've been spoiled with Chicago area pizza

New York pizza, sorry to say, is shit. Chicago pizza rules even on the "thin" wars depending on where you go.

The worst pizza I've seen is from Pittsburgh. I've never had it, but my friend who lives in Pittsburgh raves about their pizza with kebobs on it. Who eats pizza with kabobs on it?

Pittsburgh's Little Italy has incredible pizza...never seen a pizza there with kebobs...ever. And I've been eating pizza there for 35 + years. Fiori's and Mineo's are the two absolute best there. Pittsburgh had the third largest Southern Italian population in the country, they serve plenty of Napoletana type slices. They may have some specialty pizza's but mostly Calabrians live in the Pittsburgh area and they make incredible pizza.

Best pizza I ever ate was a toss up between Pepe's, Sally's and Zuppardi's. Best slice I've eaten in NY is in Mt.Vernon called Johnny's.

JCB1977 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 10, 2019 8:00 am

mafiastudent wrote: ↑Thu Oct 10, 2019 7:21 am

JCB1977 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 10, 2019 7:00 am

mafiastudent wrote: ↑Wed Oct 09, 2019 10:59 pm

Frank wrote: ↑Wed Oct 09, 2019 12:53 pm

NJShore4Life wrote: ↑Wed Oct 09, 2019 8:34 am That pizza looked like absolute shit, like something ordered from Dominos.

I've been spoiled with Chicago area pizza

Best pizza I ever ate was a toss up between Pepe's, Sally's and Zuppardi's. Best slice I've eaten in NY is in Mt.Vernon called Johnny's.

i'm going to have to ask her. When we were arguing about pizzas after she showed me a pic of this pizza she got with huge chunks of broccoli, she then told me about those kebob pizzas.

I don't doubt that she could have ordered a specialty pizza but I've been eating in the Bloomfield area (Little Italy) for over 3 decades and I can assure you that there are some very old school Pizza joints that are phenomenal and have been around for 70+ years. Why would she order pizza and broccoli? Right there, I'd have to question her sanity.

THIS PLACE IS PHENOMENAl: The family's ancestors were part of the original Calabrian Black Hand Society in the 1910's and 1920's in Pittsburgh: https://www.piazzatalarico.com/our-story/

I think she is insne. I don't know what area she's at. But I'm going to recommend that place. Maybe she'll see the light. Hahah.