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by **slimshady_007** » Sat Jan 04, 2020 9:41 pm

Mason_dixon wrote: ↑Sat Jan 04, 2020 5:04 pm Was Dom Cirrillos son very involved?

I read that he was junkie and was not at all involved.

by **Mason_dixon** » Sat Jan 04, 2020 5:04 pm

Was Dom Cirrillos son very involved?

by **newera_212** » Fri Jan 03, 2020 10:40 pm

this pot operation is interesting because it was like a who’s who of the younger Bronx players.

Londonio and i believe his uncle, who is a bonnano associate close to patty maoirino, worked with these guys as well, to a small degree. basically all the younger bronx guys from three different families were working together, with Larca playing point guard, buying pot off one another and borrowing money off one another and moving it all over yonkers, bronx, westchester and manhattan.

Going off what the reality show rat says, along with some of these documents, financing came from at times Larca, Falcetti, Crea Sr., and even Matty Madonna. they really had a good thing going for a while, a nice little run.

when the basciano bros got busted and it was larca and falcetti busted at the same time as well, i figured the genovese were overseeing it all and mistakenly thought the basciano bros were genovese “associates” under Larca. its crazy thing is how crucial the rat from the reality show was to the operation; he basically linked everyone together. he was “close” to falcetti personally, knew the basciano bros, and was a childhood friend of aiello. he also helped find a supplier for them

by B. » Tue Dec 31, 2019 12:45 am

CW-5 is an LCN associate who worked directly with Larca, Bruno and others to obtain
and distribute large quantities of marijuana in the time period from in or about mid-2011 to in or
about early 2013. In or about 2013 and 2014, CW-5, Larca, Bruno, and Bonanno associates
Vincent Basciano, Jr., Stephen Basciano, and Joseph Basciano all pled guilty to charges related to
this conspiracy. See United States v. Larca, et al., 13 Cr. 340 (RJS); United States v. Vincent
Bruno, 13 Cr. 120 (KMW). Bonanno captain Ernest Aiello also participated in the conspiracy.

The conversation then shifts to discussion of another aspect of the conspiracy’s affairs—
whether its members are showing each other the proper respect. CW-5 comments that Crea Jr. has
“always got something to say,” and Larca responds that Crea Jr. is a “peacock motherfucker.”
CW-5 proceeds to describe a dinner that he attended with Crea Jr., Ernest (“Ernie”) Aiello, Paul
Cassano (“Roast Beef”), and Bonanno associate Vincent Basciano. CW-5 relates that, during the
dinner, Crea Jr. began “saying crazy shit at the table” about the fact that Aiello had broken into the
Luchese social club (“breaking in the place”) and saying that he (Crea Jr.) would “take care” of
Aiello. (ln. 331-32). Larca asks whether the dinner occurred “after they had that beef,” referring
to the confrontation between the Bonannos and the Lucheses at the Coddington Club. (ln. 349)

All of Basciano's sons are clearly identified as Bonanno associates. Based on Ernest Aiello's involvement in the marijuana operation with them and Vincent Basciano Jr. accompanying Aiello to a dinner with Crea Jr., it suggests they are associates of Aiello and/or the crew he was supervising. This would be an indication too that they've "fallen in line" with Mancuso's leadership given that Aiello is a relative of Mancuso and a top member of that faction. Whether that means Vincent Sr. has any say in the matter of his sons is anyone's guess, but if they are associates they belong to the Bonanno family, not their father, and the Bronx element of that family has a reputation for violence.

by **gohnjotti** » Sun Dec 29, 2019 1:01 pm

I don't know if this has been pointed out before, but it's interesting that the Basciano kids were, in some way, connected with or associated with Ernie Aiello. I know it's circuitous, but Aiello is Michael Mancuso's nephew, so a connection between the Bascianos and Aiello indicates that the bad blood between Vinny Gorgeous and Mikey Nose is gone.

by **falco** » Sun Dec 29, 2019 9:30 am

)This defendant procured marijuana from Larca for further distribution on a marijuana route in Westchester County, which was operated by codefendant Elon Valentine. (PSR ¶ 27). Indeed, this route was “gifted” to Joseph Basciano by Salvatore Larca after its prior operator, Vincent Bruno, was arrested. In return, Joseph Basciano agreed to share his profits with Vincent Bruno’s family. The route sold approximately 7 to 10 pounds of marijuana a week.

It is highly unlikely, that Salvatore Larca, a Genovese soldier, would have gifted a lucrative marijuana route to an individual who had previously led a completely law abiding life. Indeed, in one consensually recorded meeting, Salvatore Larca said that he did not want to give the route to the defendant’s brother, Vincent Basciano, because Larca was afraid Vincent Basciano would screw it up. This suggests that prior to his involvement in this conspiracy Joseph Basciano had sufficiently established his bona fides as a narcotics distributer to be trusted by Salvatore Larca.

http://www.plainsite.org/dockets/downlo ... z=f8690497

by **AntComello** » Sun Dec 29, 2019 7:26 am

Just judging off of Stephan and Vinny Jt’s social media it seems like they are involved or want to be involved. They go to raos a lot (not that that means anything really lol) but they also are in pics with know Bonnano guys. Idk I have a hard time believing that they want/have nothing to do with the family. They still live in the heart of the Bronx. And I’m sure they still have some respect just off of who their father was. If they are smart they’re laying low till things cool down from the pot bust.

by B. » Sun Dec 29, 2019 1:17 am

In one of the indictments in recent years, it reported that one of the Basciano sons, possibly Stephen, accompanied Bonanno Bronx acting captain Ernest Aiello to a dinner with Lucchese and Genovese Bronx figures. I took the impression that the younger Basciano was associated with Aiello or his crew.

by **Pogo The Clown** » Sat Dec 28, 2019 5:13 pm

Michael "Mike Box" DeMaria, Frank Coppa Jr, Joseph Lino, Joseph "Joe T" Torre, Perry Criscitelli and possibly Joseph "Joey Red/JB" Indelicato are the remaining members from the Basciano Crew on the street. Though I imagine they were placed with other Capos after the crew imploded when Cicale and Pisciotti flipped.

Pogo

by **slimshady_007** » Sat Dec 28, 2019 4:18 pm

Besides what is said in the documents, what else is known abt Genovese soldier James Martino?

by **NYNighthawk** » Sat Dec 28, 2019 4:08 pm

AntComello wrote: ↑Sat Dec 28, 2019 2:55 pm Who is left on the streets of VB’s crew in the bronx?

That's a great question - Patsy DeFillipo's Waterbury Ave club has been closed for years now.

by **AntComello** » Sat Dec 28, 2019 2:55 pm

Who is left on the streets of VB’s crew in the bronx?

by **NYNighthawk** » Sat Dec 28, 2019 12:02 pm

I put people like you on the shelf years ago and I may do that with you and take your keyboard away.

by **Fughedaboutit** » Sat Dec 28, 2019 9:12 am

NYNighthawk wrote: ↑Sat Dec 28, 2019 9:08 am
Fughedaboutit wrote: ↑Sat Dec 28, 2019 9:01 am
NYNighthawk wrote: ↑Sat Aug 17, 2019 4:53 pm I actually saw Basciano and DeFillipo and another at the Precinct stationhouse - (NYPD 47th Pct) after they were caught shooting Nunez on Gun Hill Road and White Plains Road at 9:00 am in front of a crowd of morning commuters.. They were busted in construction type of clothing. Three (3) hours later, Basciano's wife comes into the Precinct with three (3) garment bags of suits that all three wore for the lineup. Guess what - no one could pick them out. Basciano went on trial in Bronx Supreme Court for this shooting and actually beat the attempted murder rap but was convicted on the gun rap. He and the wife eventually divorced, I believe, so they could not go after her share of the assets in the forfeiture proceedings.
Never heard of being allowed to change clothes before a lineup...wtf
It doesn't matter what you think - it happened. There are no hard and fast rules on police lineups. In fact knucklehead - the defense lawyer is allowed to be present and he can make any changes he wants to the lineup including clothing. STFU!

Simply stating that doesn't sound like standard practice when trying to pick out someone you saw, to alter your appearance genius. No need for name calling keyboard tough guy. Must have had an emasculating Christmas. You STFU if you can't take a simple comment.

Honestly, nobody cares that you were fawning over mobsters in a police station. What were you doing there anyway? Snitching?

by **NYNighthawk** » Sat Dec 28, 2019 9:08 am

Fughedaboutit wrote: ↑Sat Dec 28, 2019 9:01 am
NYNighthawk wrote: ↑Sat Aug 17, 2019 4:53 pm I actually saw Basciano and DeFillipo and another at the Precinct stationhouse - (NYPD 47th Pct) after they were caught shooting Nunez on Gun Hill Road and White Plains Road at 9:00 am in front of a crowd of morning commuters.. They were busted in construction type of clothing. Three (3) hours later, Basciano's wife comes into the Precinct with three (3) garment bags of suits that all three wore for the lineup. Guess what - no one could pick them out. Basciano went on trial in Bronx Supreme Court for this shooting and actually beat the attempted murder rap but was convicted on the gun rap. He and the wife eventually divorced, I believe, so they could not go after her share of the assets in the forfeiture proceedings.
Never heard of being allowed to change clothes before a lineup...wtf

It doesn't matter what you think - it happened. There are no hard and fast rules on police lineups. In fact knucklehead - the defense lawyer is allowed to be present and he can make any changes he wants to the lineup including clothing. STFU!

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