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John W wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2019 4:37 am Please make a separate thread for the same old ‘what’s going on in the neighbourhood and what’s changed in the old neighbourhood’ discussions that we have seen a thousand times on here, let’s get back on topic please

Wiseguy wrote: ↑Tue Jul 16, 2019 11:23 am

Bklyn21 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2019 9:37 pm Wiseguys need Italian American neighborhoods to do, And run they're businesses, Rackets, Scams, Dugs, Operations. Do we ever see wiseguys dominating Rissian neighborhoods, Black neighborhoods, Chinese neighborhoods, Arab neighborhoods??? No, Never ! They'd have little to no success and be met with Pushback and have to shoot it out with people who give no fucks who they are. And would have no problems removing some Italians from they're area. They know they have no business being in these areas and would be thrown out like yesterdays trash

The mob needing Italian neighborhoods has long been the assumption but I'm not sure that's really the case. How many Italian neighborhoods are left in the greater New York area? Going by that alone, the mob probably should have disappeared already. But it hasn't.

I think part of assimilation into the general mainstream that is easily overlooked, when it comes to the mob, is that they've been able to operate in any area that's largely mainstream white, i.e. not an area that is non-white or decidedly ethnic white like a Russian or Albanian neighborhood, etc.

So, while in one sense, assimilation has brought about the demise of most of the mob; in another sense it's provided a place and means to operate for the part of the mob that remains.

newera_212 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 16, 2019 9:47 pm

bert wrote: ↑Tue Jul 16, 2019 9:47 am I did not say they sold out, I may have said they sold to move away and take the overpayments offered on their homes in the 1990's. They were pushed out by landlords of private apartments taking in illegals and section 8 tenants, and overcrowding. Those areas were better years ago.

if you own your home, no one is pushing you out except for the bank if you're mortgaged or the county if you owe a shitload of taxes. most of these areas we are talking about were filled with single family homes. people left voluntarily for whatever personal reasons they had, all valid... but i doubt too many people who got their homes in the 50s - 70s and sold in the last 20 years sold at a loss. now a lot of those single family homes got chopped up into 2/3 family homes by the people who bought them for literal bags of cash

the same thing is happening now all over northern brooklyn. the hasids are going door to door hoping to find a black family who owns their home, down on their luck and stupid enough to sell for a fraction of it's value, in cash lmao...

bert wrote: ↑Tue Jul 16, 2019 9:47 am I did not say they sold out, I may have said they sold to move away and take the overpayments offered on their homes in the 1990's. They were pushed out by landlords of private apartments taking in illegals and section 8 tenants, and overcrowding. Those areas were better years ago.

bert wrote: ↑Tue Jul 16, 2019 9:47 am I did not say they sold out, I may have said they sold to move away and take the overpayments offered on their homes in the 1990's. They were pushed out by landlords of private apartments taking in illegals and section 8 tenants, and overcrowding. Those areas were better years ago.

bert wrote: ↑Mon Jul 15, 2019 9:20 pm Newera212 on Bensonhurst:
"they were all crying about a school in bensonhurst closing down recently. all over the news. end of an era. the boomers were being interviewed saying its a real shame "oh i went there as a kid" 'blah blah blah. yeah? if it was so important why'd you move to Tom's River to have your kids go to a public school there instead? if it was so important how many trips did you make back for mass? "

It is because the area changed from Catholic to Muslim, with any new Catholics being Hispanic, and going to school tuition free. I bet they were not "Crying" either.

Bklyn21 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2019 9:37 pm Wiseguys need Italian American neighborhoods to do, And run they're businesses, Rackets, Scams, Dugs, Operations. Do we ever see wiseguys dominating Rissian neighborhoods, Black neighborhoods, Chinese neighborhoods, Arab neighborhoods??? No, Never ! They'd have little to no success and be met with Pushback and have to shoot it out with people who give no fucks who they are. And would have no problems removing some Italians from they're area. They know they have no business being in these areas and would be thrown out like yesterdays trash

newera_212 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 15, 2019 9:09 pm

Bklyn21 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2019 7:18 am

givememysocks wrote: ↑Thu Jul 11, 2019 7:41 pm

Bklyn21 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 11, 2019 7:20 pm Sal was just involved recently in some Construction extortion, Violations, Government contracts, Bid rigging and abuses who was a former Giannini member.

Awsome info Bklyn21. What else do you know about Sal? I know he and his family are pretty close to Genovese soldier Chris Chierchio and his family. Chris owns a plumbing company and was acquitted for bid rigging a few months ago. I wonder if they are involved in any construction schemes together.

Not much really, Its been 20 plus years since I've seen, Much less heard some of these names . Back in the late 80's and throughout the 90's these neighborhoods were all constantly fighting/Warring with each other, Alot of them hated each other. Ozone Pk. Would regularly brawl/Fight Howard beach, Woodhaven and Ozp would fight Middle village and ridgewood. Ridgewood vs. Ozp etc etc.. neighborhoods lines and loyalties were tight and fierce ! Brooklyn was the same thing, Marine Pk. And mill basin, Bensonhurst and gravesend etc etc. Now ?? Lmfaoo what a joke !! Mob guys and they're families and friends just constantly move and abandon there so called neighborhoods and crammed themselves into places like SI, LI, And then blame every other nationality, Ethnic group for destroying your so called neighborhoods ! These scumbags destroyed their own neighborhoods by acting like Pos animals they are

i always found that hilarious. its not so much the old timers, as it is the boomers, who actually complain about the neighborhoods changing, not being the same, or "going to shit" - but they're the ones who voluntarily left. lmao.

they were all crying about a school in bensonhurst closing down recently. all over the news. end of an era. the boomers were being interviewed saying its a real shame "oh i went there as a kid" 'blah blah blah. yeah? if it was so important why'd you move to Tom's River to have your kids go to a public school there instead? if it was so important how many trips did you make back for mass?

i understand why people leave the city, but dont turn around and cry that its gone to shit or that your favorite bakery closed down, when all the people who made it what it was high tailed it out of there and never send a dollar back to the old neighborhood. complain about the chinks taking over but gladly accept the back of cash they offer for your home lmao

i will say that i see a lot of former residents or kids of former residents in Corona a lot. every weekend the area gets flooded with people driving in to go to parkside or the triangle. thats kind of nice to see. but cant help but think what that area would be like if those people stayed and built lives and community there

Bklyn21 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2019 7:18 am

givememysocks wrote: ↑Thu Jul 11, 2019 7:41 pm

Bklyn21 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 11, 2019 7:20 pm Sal was just involved recently in some Construction extortion, Violations, Government contracts, Bid rigging and abuses who was a former Giannini member.

Awsome info Bklyn21. What else do you know about Sal? I know he and his family are pretty close to Genovese soldier Chris Chierchio and his family. Chris owns a plumbing company and was acquitted for bid rigging a few months ago. I wonder if they are involved in any construction schemes together.

Not much really, Its been 20 plus years since I've seen, Much less heard some of these names . Back in the late 80's and throughout the 90's these neighborhoods were all constantly fighting/Warring with each other, Alot of them hated each other. Ozone Pk. Would regularly brawl/Fight Howard beach, Woodhaven and Ozp would fight Middle village and ridgewood. Ridgewood vs. Ozp etc etc.. neighborhoods lines and loyalties were tight and fierce ! Brooklyn was the same thing, Marine Pk. And mill basin, Bensonhurst and gravesend etc etc. Now ?? Lmfaoo what a joke !! Mob guys and they're families and friends just constantly move and abandon there so called neighborhoods and crammed themselves into places like SI, LI, And then blame every other nationality, Ethnic group for destroying your so called neighborhoods ! These scumbags destroyed their own neighborhoods by acting like Pos animals they are

SonnyBlackstein wrote: ↑Tue Jul 09, 2019 3:25 pm Thanks for the post GMMS

Six years? Violent priors, gun running and a murder contract! Walk in the park...

bert wrote: ↑Tue Jul 09, 2019 8:10 pm He is called an associate by the feds, it seems he is street guy who knows wise guys well but is never going to be one. He was set up, they had an informant approach him in a a halfway house, so they had it in their minds to try and send him right back to prison. He was stupid to agree to do it. The reason for the deal was he was not going to use or keep the guns, he was transporting them for 2,000 dollars. He doesn't look to smart. So he had a chance to get out and fucked it up by taking the bait. I wonder what the informant got on his end of the deal.