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Re: Lenny Mancini Jr

by JCB1977 » Mon May 25, 2015 1:35 pm

Five Felonies wrote:that youngstown documentary was a very good watch, nice one jcb! it's really interesting when you had so much activity and violence in a small city like youngstown that seemed to really have a "small town america" vibe as opposed to the hustle and bustle of a major city like ny or chicago where that sort of stuff just seems to fit in alot more. it's really fucking crazy when you think about all those bombing, in today's fear mongering terrorist under every rock climate homeland security and all those other bogus government agencies would be there in a heartbeat violating everyone's civil rights under the guise of safety, yet those people just went on living their lives, definitely cut from a different cloth! very interesting era in american history to say the least.

If you go to iTunes, I think you would enjoy a documentary called Sugar Wars on the Cleveland Mob. It was very well done.

Re: Lenny Mancini Jr

by Five Felonies » Sun May 17, 2015 4:11 pm

that youngstown documentary was a very good watch, nice one jcb! it's really interesting when you had so much activity and violence in a small city like youngstown that seemed to really have a "small town america" vibe as opposed to the hustle and bustle of a major city like ny or chicago where that sort of stuff just seems to fit in alot more. it's really fucking crazy when you think about all those bombing, in today's fear mongering terrorist under every rock climate homeland security and all those other bogus government agencies would be there in a heartbeat violating everyone's civil rights under the guise of safety, yet those people just went on living their lives, definitely cut from a different cloth! very interesting era in american history to say the least.

Re: Lenny Mancini Jr

by JCB1977 » Sun May 17, 2015 11:27 am

Pogo The Clown wrote:Yeah that was pretty good. Lots of good footage of the different eras. That plac was pretty mobbed up and had a lot of mob violence for such a small city.


Pogo
Keep in mind there were two families constantly fighting for control of the Youngstown Rackets, especially prior to the collapse of the steel industry. When the mills were running, Jay paid very good wages and everybody had money in their pocket for a local craps or barbut game. Youngstown was located halfway between Pittsburgh and Cleveland and the All American Club illegal casino netted $20 million a year for Pittsburgh... That's one casino that the FBI said was the largest illegal casino in the country.

Re: Lenny Mancini Jr

by FriendofHenry » Sun May 17, 2015 8:12 am

Unlike most local boxing champions, Ray retired well: OK, very well.
A local, well respected CPA and Eddie Flask, Carmen Policy's law partner, took care of Raymond's financial affairs.
Also unlike most boxer's financial advisers, they gave him a "good count".

Re: Lenny Mancini Jr

by Pogo The Clown » Sun May 17, 2015 7:47 am

Yeah that was pretty good. Lots of good footage of the different eras. That plac was pretty mobbed up and had a lot of mob violence for such a small city.


Pogo

Re: Lenny Mancini Jr

by JCB1977 » Sat May 16, 2015 5:41 pm

Five Felonies wrote:
JCB1977 wrote:If you haven't already, check out the documentary called Youngstown: Still Standing. It's on YouTube, fantastic Documentary.
thanks, looks very promising!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZgrXAzH4t0
Ed O'Neill, Ray Mancini and others made the doc. Very informative, and very interesting...it's real, made by Youngstown people. Even if you're not from there, still very interesting if you're a mob buff.

Re: Lenny Mancini Jr

by Five Felonies » Sat May 16, 2015 5:24 pm

JCB1977 wrote:If you haven't already, check out the documentary called Youngstown: Still Standing. It's on YouTube, fantastic Documentary.
thanks, looks very promising!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZgrXAzH4t0

Re: Lenny Mancini Jr

by JCB1977 » Sat May 16, 2015 5:11 pm

If you haven't already, check out the documentary called Youngstown: Still Standing. It's on YouTube, fantastic Documentary.

Re: Lenny Mancini Jr

by JCB1977 » Sat May 16, 2015 5:09 pm

And I agree, amazing documentary. I remember being at the Italian American Club watching the fight as a child with my dad and my grandpa. Ray was one of several great Youngstown fighters (although I think he was the best).

Re: Lenny Mancini Jr

by JCB1977 » Sat May 16, 2015 5:07 pm

Five Felonies wrote:i know we have at least 2 people here very familiar with youngstown. anyway, i was recently watched "the good son", a documentary on ray mancini, a great watch btw. they didn't really get into too much detail, but after lenny stepped away from boxing they said he earned some extra money as a debt collector for some local wiseguys. also, his death was pretty shady with his involvement with that teenager who was allegedly being pimped out by biker gang, they mentioned "outlaws" but that could have just been a generic term but then again given the geography it very well could have been the group of the same name. just looking for some more specific info, thanks!
Lenny Mancini Jr. unfortunately was a bad drug addict. The old man was a gem, a true class act. Lenny Jr. was living in a bad area, buying drugs at the end of his street. He did collect "a little" for major bookmaker in Youngstown, Sam Vona Sr. His drug habit forced people to turn their backs on him as he was beyond help. Ashame, the Mancini's were good, honest people. FYI- Ray just got remarried to Paul Romeo's granddaughter. Paul Romeo was "the guy" in Youngstown from the 1930's until 1961. Dom Mallamo took over for Paul and they were boyhood friends in Reggio Calabria, Italy. Friend of Henry probably knows the Mancini's as well.

Lenny Mancini Jr

by Five Felonies » Sat May 16, 2015 4:46 pm

i know we have at least 2 people here very familiar with youngstown. anyway, i was recently watched "the good son", a documentary on ray mancini, a great watch btw. they didn't really get into too much detail, but after lenny stepped away from boxing they said he earned some extra money as a debt collector for some local wiseguys. also, his death was pretty shady with his involvement with that teenager who was allegedly being pimped out by biker gang, they mentioned "outlaws" but that could have just been a generic term but then again given the geography it very well could have been the group of the same name. just looking for some more specific info, thanks!

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