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by motorfab » Wed Jun 05, 2019 9:55 am
Confederate wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 1:08 pm scagghiuni wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 12:58 pm Confederate wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2019 4:22 pm The "Fear Factor" seems to be stronger in Canada. is there a witness protection program? i've never heard of any rat from canada I believe there is one. I think it started in the mid 1990's.
scagghiuni wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 12:58 pm Confederate wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2019 4:22 pm The "Fear Factor" seems to be stronger in Canada. is there a witness protection program? i've never heard of any rat from canada
Confederate wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2019 4:22 pm The "Fear Factor" seems to be stronger in Canada.
by mike68 » Wed Jun 05, 2019 9:44 am
by Confederate » Tue Jun 04, 2019 1:08 pm
by scagghiuni » Tue Jun 04, 2019 12:58 pm
by bert » Mon Jun 03, 2019 8:36 pm
Lupara wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2019 4:02 pm bert wrote:scagghiuni wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2019 2:16 pm Pogo The Clown wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2019 12:46 pm Definitely not. Just pointing out how it is a bit of myth about LE ignoring the mob before the 1980s since a large portion, if not a majority, of the guys have did time in the decades before then. Pogo the point is that they fought it as it was not a mafia group but a normal gang, same in italy when there were not all the current anti-mafia laws... yes, some members was arrested and did some times in prison, but rarely sentenced to life, hard sentences, there were not rats who testimonied in a trial, no witness protection program, no rico etc. A lot of guys got hard sentences, one guy in the NYPD Mafia file book did 37 years, his name was Sebu, or a similar spelling. Time was harder and tougher than too, and don''t forget that cops and guards could knock the shit out of anyone they felt like. Harry Mainone and Frank Abbadasher (sp?) went to the electric chair. Most old time members did reform school time, and had such a rough time growing up that to some, prison was not so bad. The guys growing up in a nice area, in a safe environment are not going to stand up to prison as well.At the same time mob members had a lot more priviliges in prison than nowadays. The scenes in Goodfellas showing the boys in prison were accurate. Prison life wasn't that bad for mobsters back then because of their influence and power outside. Many guards could be bribed and some guys lived like royalty in prison with plenty of room, good food, many friends around and perhaps even had access to women. It's not that hard doing time like that. In Canada shit like that still happens. Desjardins was treated like a king when he was inside. Over there it's comparable to what you see in a movie such as Un Prophete.
bert wrote:scagghiuni wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2019 2:16 pm Pogo The Clown wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2019 12:46 pm Definitely not. Just pointing out how it is a bit of myth about LE ignoring the mob before the 1980s since a large portion, if not a majority, of the guys have did time in the decades before then. Pogo the point is that they fought it as it was not a mafia group but a normal gang, same in italy when there were not all the current anti-mafia laws... yes, some members was arrested and did some times in prison, but rarely sentenced to life, hard sentences, there were not rats who testimonied in a trial, no witness protection program, no rico etc. A lot of guys got hard sentences, one guy in the NYPD Mafia file book did 37 years, his name was Sebu, or a similar spelling. Time was harder and tougher than too, and don''t forget that cops and guards could knock the shit out of anyone they felt like. Harry Mainone and Frank Abbadasher (sp?) went to the electric chair. Most old time members did reform school time, and had such a rough time growing up that to some, prison was not so bad. The guys growing up in a nice area, in a safe environment are not going to stand up to prison as well.
scagghiuni wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2019 2:16 pm Pogo The Clown wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2019 12:46 pm Definitely not. Just pointing out how it is a bit of myth about LE ignoring the mob before the 1980s since a large portion, if not a majority, of the guys have did time in the decades before then. Pogo the point is that they fought it as it was not a mafia group but a normal gang, same in italy when there were not all the current anti-mafia laws... yes, some members was arrested and did some times in prison, but rarely sentenced to life, hard sentences, there were not rats who testimonied in a trial, no witness protection program, no rico etc.
Pogo The Clown wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2019 12:46 pm Definitely not. Just pointing out how it is a bit of myth about LE ignoring the mob before the 1980s since a large portion, if not a majority, of the guys have did time in the decades before then. Pogo
by Confederate » Mon Jun 03, 2019 4:22 pm
by Confederate » Mon Jun 03, 2019 4:13 pm
by Lupara » Mon Jun 03, 2019 4:02 pm
by bert » Mon Jun 03, 2019 2:31 pm
by scagghiuni » Mon Jun 03, 2019 2:16 pm
by Pogo The Clown » Mon Jun 03, 2019 12:46 pm
by richy67 » Mon Jun 03, 2019 12:44 pm
by Lupara » Mon Jun 03, 2019 12:42 pm
Pogo The Clown wrote:For the very top guys yes but a lot of the low and even mid level guys were in and out of prison during that time. Just about all the guys who came up during the 60s and 70s did time at one time or another. Pogo
by Pogo The Clown » Mon Jun 03, 2019 12:37 pm
by scagghiuni » Mon Jun 03, 2019 12:34 pm
bert wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2019 9:48 am I still disagree Lupara, they had a lot of pressure in the period of 1957-1979, tons of it.
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