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Re: "Getting Pussy" -- the fall of Anthony Russo 1978-1979 (+Boiardo crew history)

by newera_212 » Mon Feb 18, 2019 10:22 pm

wow. thank you for this amazing thread. Great stuff B. Really good stuff

As interesting as the whole Genovese are to me, especially the timeframe from Vito's arrest up until present day basically, I still havent read enough about NJ and know nothing about this crew. I knew somewhat of the Godfather influence, and knew his kid was a peice of shit, but besides that, did not know much about Boiardo

my biggest takeaway was his willingness to speak openly to the feds. its astonishing. maybe it was a part of his image: the retired, stately and ambivalent old racketeer - but it almost seems like he had no belief in the Cosa Nostra ethos at all. rackets, money, his name and reputation..,yes...but it seems like he didnt take LCN seriously at all.

i get that after the Valachi situation, guys were shaken up and scrambling to still hold onto secrecy. but the way Boiardo was talking was almost like he didnt consider himself a member at all and didnt take the whole LCN thing serious. which is funny because the next successors to the Boiardo era produced some of the most by-the-rules true believers LCN has ever seen

am i grasping at that? just an image? or does anyone else get the idea that he made himself seem above it all?

also are there any relatives of him still alive? i want to know what happened to his money. the guy must have been incredibly wealthy

Re: "Getting Pussy" -- the fall of Anthony Russo 1978-1979 (+Boiardo crew history)

by B. » Thu Feb 14, 2019 1:12 pm

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Unrelated to the Russo / Boiardo topic, but here is Tommy Eboli referring to a group of guys being "made", but he means promoted to capodecina, which is clarified later in the report. So in addition to Russo, it seems others used this same language to talk about promotions. There is also a DeCav tape transcript where they talk about Joe Colombo being "made" but they're clearly referring to when he became boss. Just posting this, re: Andy Gerardo being "made" in the 1970s. He very well could have been inducted in the 1970s and not in the 1950s as was reported by a source, but without further context the comment could have been about his promotion, too.

Re: "Getting Pussy" -- the fall of Anthony Russo 1978-1979 (+Boiardo crew history)

by B. » Tue Feb 12, 2019 12:53 pm

Thomas Tato was the man said to be Al Capone's cousin who tried to settle the Boiardo / Zwillman conflict. Tato was later murdered, with Boiardo a suspect.

Re: "Getting Pussy" -- the fall of Anthony Russo 1978-1979 (+Boiardo crew history)

by aleksandrored » Tue Feb 12, 2019 10:59 am

Great article B, I found very informative, the information of Capone and Genovese have been associated with Camorra is fantastic, besides I liked reading the story of Anthony Russo and Richie Boiardo.

Re: "Getting Pussy" -- the fall of Anthony Russo 1978-1979 (+Boiardo crew history)

by B. » Fri Feb 08, 2019 1:39 pm

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I thought the redacted portion of this was referring to an associate of Nick Delmore being made around the same time as Boiardo, which might be the case, but a book about New Jersey state history by Brian A. Smith has a section on the DeCavalcante/Jersey family which has some mistakes and obviously isn't coming from a place of expertise, but it claims Delmore "became a family member in late 1943 or early 1944." I'm curious if he had an unredacted part of the same report and the redacted portion indicates Delmore was inducted during this same period.

I'd have to check my books on the DeCav tapes but I remember a recording of DeCarlo and Sam DeCavalcante discussing their inductions where they make reference to Boiardo's induction, but only that it happened before DeCarlo's induction. DeCarlo talks about how he (DeCarlo) and Sy Rega were made together in 1947 and DeCavalcante was made around the mid-late 1940s as well. It's possible the redacted portion above refers to DeCavalcante's induction given his connection to Delmore but I don't believe that's what it's referring to.

It's entirely possible to me that Delmore was made "late", especially when you consider how late Boiardo and to a lesser extent Catena were made in their criminal careers. The only reason it might be a surprise is because of Delmore's Sicilian heritage and apparent relation to Francesco DeCavalcante.

If the report does indicate that Nick Delmore was inducted at the same ceremony as Boiardo, that opens up interesting possibilities. Delmore was suspected by the FBI of being a Genovese captain before they were able to clearly identify the separate Elizabeth family and Delmore was said to have associated close with Vito Genovese, which would make sense as JD shared info that the DeCavalcantes were originally represented by the Genovese before the Gambinos. If he was made in a ceremony with Genovese members I don't know what to think unless he transferred.

Re: "Getting Pussy" -- the fall of Anthony Russo 1978-1979 (+Boiardo crew history)

by B. » Fri Feb 08, 2019 1:01 pm

Boiardo was arrested with Settimo Accardi's brother Joseph in 1939 on bootlegging charges. My guess is he was by this time an associate of the Genovese family or otherwise had made peace with local mafia groups.

Re: "Getting Pussy" -- the fall of Anthony Russo 1978-1979 (+Boiardo crew history)

by HairyKnuckles » Fri Feb 08, 2019 2:25 am

Frank wrote: Fri Feb 08, 2019 12:29 am
HairyKnuckles wrote: Thu Feb 07, 2019 1:34 pm
B. wrote: Thu Feb 07, 2019 12:11 pm
HairyKnuckles wrote: Thu Feb 07, 2019 7:57 am I don´t mean to derail this thread any further. But if anybody wants to discuss Lombardo´s position within the Genovese Family we can do it one of the already existing threads. Please go on with this thread´s subkect here.
Thanks, man. Do you have the link to your Funzi Tieri thread? That was a great thread with solid discussion. I have some bits about pieces I've come across about Tieri I might want to add there one of these days, too.
I know that I discussed the Tieri/Lombardo issue with several posters in numerous of threads so finding them all by using the search function will be difficult, But I think this trhread was the one that started the discussion and it kinda splashed over in different threads.

viewtopic.php?f=29&t=48&hilit=hate
I can't remember if you had Catena as official boss after Genovese, with Tieri becoming official boss after Catena .
Yes, Catena official boss after Genovese, despite his unwillingness and hesitation to take the job. While in jail, Catena had Eboli running the Family. And after the Eboli murder, possibly a ruling panel was set up before Tieri was made the official boss. By that time, Catena was released from jail and stepped down.

Re: "Getting Pussy" -- the fall of Anthony Russo 1978-1979 (+Boiardo crew history)

by Frank » Fri Feb 08, 2019 12:29 am

HairyKnuckles wrote: Thu Feb 07, 2019 1:34 pm
B. wrote: Thu Feb 07, 2019 12:11 pm
HairyKnuckles wrote: Thu Feb 07, 2019 7:57 am I don´t mean to derail this thread any further. But if anybody wants to discuss Lombardo´s position within the Genovese Family we can do it one of the already existing threads. Please go on with this thread´s subkect here.
Thanks, man. Do you have the link to your Funzi Tieri thread? That was a great thread with solid discussion. I have some bits about pieces I've come across about Tieri I might want to add there one of these days, too.
I know that I discussed the Tieri/Lombardo issue with several posters in numerous of threads so finding them all by using the search function will be difficult, But I think this trhread was the one that started the discussion and it kinda splashed over in different threads.

viewtopic.php?f=29&t=48&hilit=hate
I can't remember if you had Catena as official boss after Genovese, with Tieri becoming official boss after Catena .

Re: "Getting Pussy" -- the fall of Anthony Russo 1978-1979 (+Boiardo crew history)

by HairyKnuckles » Thu Feb 07, 2019 1:34 pm

B. wrote: Thu Feb 07, 2019 12:11 pm
HairyKnuckles wrote: Thu Feb 07, 2019 7:57 am I don´t mean to derail this thread any further. But if anybody wants to discuss Lombardo´s position within the Genovese Family we can do it one of the already existing threads. Please go on with this thread´s subkect here.
Thanks, man. Do you have the link to your Funzi Tieri thread? That was a great thread with solid discussion. I have some bits about pieces I've come across about Tieri I might want to add there one of these days, too.
I know that I discussed the Tieri/Lombardo issue with several posters in numerous of threads so finding them all by using the search function will be difficult, But I think this trhread was the one that started the discussion and it kinda splashed over in different threads.

viewtopic.php?f=29&t=48&hilit=hate

Re: "Getting Pussy" -- the fall of Anthony Russo 1978-1979 (+Boiardo crew history)

by B. » Thu Feb 07, 2019 12:11 pm

HairyKnuckles wrote: Thu Feb 07, 2019 7:57 am I don´t mean to derail this thread any further. But if anybody wants to discuss Lombardo´s position within the Genovese Family we can do it one of the already existing threads. Please go on with this thread´s subkect here.
Thanks, man. Do you have the link to your Funzi Tieri thread? That was a great thread with solid discussion. I have some bits about pieces I've come across about Tieri I might want to add there one of these days, too.

Re: "Getting Pussy" -- the fall of Anthony Russo 1978-1979 (+Boiardo crew history)

by HairyKnuckles » Thu Feb 07, 2019 7:57 am

Very interesting thread! Nice to see you B doing breakdowns like this.
Like others have said, very interesting to see someone from that family refer to Lombardo as the official boss in his own words
Just a small input...Funzi Tieri was the officioal boss but there were captains within the Family who were able to influence Tieri´s decisions. Lombordo was one of those. He seems to have had a very powerful standing within the Family and his input regarding decision making within the Family was highly respected. For example, it seems like he was able to convince Tieri to make Fat Tony Salerno, a member of Lombardo´s crew (and his acting captain), the underboss after Zeccardi was killed.

I don´t mean to derail this thread any further. But if anybody wants to discuss Lombardo´s position within the Genovese Family we can do it one of the already existing threads. Please go on with this thread´s subkect here.

Re: "Getting Pussy" -- the fall of Anthony Russo 1978-1979 (+Boiardo crew history)

by B. » Wed Feb 06, 2019 2:51 pm

At least a few sources talk about Amari being the longtime leader, though. This info provided by Chaps sums it up pretty well:

-On October 14, 1966 NK T-4 said that in the 1930's, 1940's, and until 1958, PHIL AMARI was the "boss of the organized Italian mob which is now called LCN. AMARI"S activities centered around Elizabeth, NJ and his number on Lieutenant was NICHOLAS DELMORE. In about 1958, or maybe 1957, BIG PHIL AMARI suddenly left this country and returned to his native ITALY whereupon DEMORE replaced AMARI. When DELMORE died in early 1964, SAM DE CAVALCANTE replaced DELMORE." This same informant went on to say that he had no knowledge of Sam DeCavalcante until 1953 when all of a sudden Sam showed up in Elizabeth, NJ from Trenton and became Nick Delmore's "constant companion".

Want to add a link to a Newark mafia thread so that this one can stay focused mostly on Boiardo (of course I'm the one bringing it up):

viewtopic.php?f=29&t=2987

Re: "Getting Pussy" -- the fall of Anthony Russo 1978-1979 (+Boiardo crew history)

by B. » Wed Feb 06, 2019 2:37 pm

Snakes wrote: Wed Feb 06, 2019 2:02 pm
Do you know what the "siji" they refer to in the transcript is?
"Sidgie" or "sidge" is a term for Sicilians. I believe they are incorrect about Catena and possibly Eboli, not sure their heritage honestly, but they are correct about many of the Commission members. Later one of them corrects himself about Catena being a "sidgie."
Pogo The Clown wrote: Wed Feb 06, 2019 1:53 pm
B. wrote: Wed Feb 06, 2019 12:52 pm On page 30 they talk about Nick Delmore trying to contact Russo frequently because they both lived in Long Branch. DeCarlo says "everyone else made up with" Delmore and "made him the boss again." This fits with an FBI report that says Delmore had been the boss before Phil Amari, as well as boss after.

Do you happen to have the years of Delmore's first reign as Boss? I'm drawing a blank. Thanks.


Pogo
We don't know anything. This is about the most we've got at this point and it's hard to say if it's even correct, or we're interpreting it correctly.

Delmore was called a "politician racketeer" at the time of his early 1930s arrest and he seems to have been a leader of some kind back then, but that doesn't mean he was a boss.

Re: "Getting Pussy" -- the fall of Anthony Russo 1978-1979 (+Boiardo crew history)

by B. » Wed Feb 06, 2019 2:35 pm

Going back to Boiardo, we can look at who he had conflicts with in the late 1920s and early 1930s to try and see the bigger picture of the Newark mafia and his relationship to it...

Reported conflicts with:
- Stefano Badami (boss of Newark and/or DeCavalcante family; possibly future Lucchese member)
- Nick Delmore (Future DeCavalcante boss)
- Salvatore Lombardino, John Misuraca, and the Pizzolato brothers (Likely Newark family members; future Profaci & Lucchese leaders)
- Accardi brothers (Likely Newark family members; future Lucchese leader(s))
- Willie Moretti (Genovese/Masseria leader)
- Longie Zwillman (Jewish bootlegging/gang leader, ally of most of the above mafiosi)

It's reported that Boiardo's biggest rival, Longie Zwillman, was working with most of the above Sicilians, meaning Zwillman was an associate or at least an ally of the Newark mafia. Gerry Catena was also associated early on with Nick Delmore and other reports indicate he may have been an associate of the Newark mafia. Catena himself was said to work closely with Zwillman.

Two main thoughts:

1) Boiardo wasn't in conflict with Zwillman and a bunch of separate Sicilian groups, but these "skirmishes" were likely a larger ongoing conflict with the Newark mafia as a whole and then the Genovese/Masseria Jersey group under Moretti. Hard to know if the DeCavalcantes were separate back then, but if there were multiple Sicilian families at odds with Boiardo, it's likely they were in alliance given that they were mafia groups and Boiardo was not.

2) When Boiardo went to prison in the early 1930s, the men running his gang were said to have made peace with Longie Zwillman. Given Zwillman's alliance with the mafia, this points to Boiardo's gang falling in line or otherwise making peace with the Newark mafia group(s) while he was in prison. When Boiardo was released, he had three leaders of his own gang shot (two dying) and one of them, Gyp DeCarlo, split off from Boiardo. Given that the Boiardo gang would end up being a crew of the Genovese family, it seems likely to me that the Boiardo gang may have become Genovese associates while he was in prison. DeCarlo would end up being made in the Genovese family, it's possible his "split" from Boiardo was actually him staying associated with the Genovese group. In the DeCarlo/Anthony Russo conversation where Russo talks about his brother Ralph (who was one of the murdered Boiardo gang leaders after his release) going to Pittsburgh with Moe Dalitz and being killed on Boiardo's orders, he mentions Pittsburgh's ties to Vito Genovese immediately afterward. This could be an indication that Ralph Russo's presence in Pittsburgh was connected to Genovese, who would later be close to Anthony Russo himself.

3) The question would be when Boiardo himself aligned himself with the Genovese family. We can be sure though that sometime between the mid-1930s and 1944 (when he was made) he fell in line, though clearly he remained a powerful force in his own right. If my theory is true that his gang fell in line with the mafia while he was in prison, it seems likely they were with the Genovese family and not the Newark mafia family. Boiardo's own induction into the Genovese opposed to another family is pretty easy to accept without even knowing the specifics. Consider the following:

A) Boiardo was a Neapolitan. Most Neapolitans, especially those who had achieved their own underworld significance, overwhelmingly joined the Masseria/Genovese family. Also Calabrians, but other families recruited more Calabresi than Neapolitans compared to the Genovese and the Genovese were possibly the only group to put Neapolitans in powerful positions early on.
B) Boiardo may have had ties to the Camorra according to one report. This fits with Vito Genovese, Rocco Pellegrino, Al Capone and likely other ranking Genovese members of his era.
C) Boiardo was raised in Chicago, which had strong connections to Masseria/Genovese and though he says he first become involved in bootlegging in 1925, his earlier criminal record and underworld acumen point to him likely being involved in crime from an earlier age, meaning he may have been associated with criminal groups in Chicago.
D) He was believed to have connections to Al Capone during prohibition. During the period Al Capone was a Masseria capodecina, he was said to have had some kind of interest in Boiardo/New Jersey activities, sending a cousin to mediate the dispute between Zwillman and Boiardo to no avail.
E) The last conflict prior to Boiardo going to prison in the early 1930s looks to have been with Willie Moretti. These kinds of conflicts often aren't about completely eliminating the opposition, but incorporating them. While it may have taken Boiardo longer to accept this than the rest of his gang, it would have been more logical for Boiardo to join Moretti than the Sicilian-dominated group(s) in Newark.
F) During the period Boiardo seems to have fallen in line with the Genovese between the mid-1930s and 1944, much of the violence and warfare that had plagued the mafia over the previous couple of decades had settled down to a minimum, their membership was large, and bootlegging money was being invested in a large number of rackets. It seems likely that the groups were too strong and cohesive for Boiardo to keeping fighting. Most of his conflicts with the mafia seem to have happened when the mafia was fighting among its own.

Not as cohesive as I'd like, but hopefully you can understand what I'm trying to get at with these theories. Informed speculation, as is often the case with this stuff....

Re: "Getting Pussy" -- the fall of Anthony Russo 1978-1979 (+Boiardo crew history)

by Snakes » Wed Feb 06, 2019 2:02 pm

B. wrote: Wed Feb 06, 2019 12:52 pm On page 19 of that transcript they discuss the murder of Anthony's brother Ralph Russo in Pittsburgh. Says they told John Russo they tried to save him (Ralph) and that Ralph was with Moe Dalitz in Pittsburgh.

Two pages later Russo says they (Boiardos) are trying to set "Joey Casey" (Juliano) up to be hit, which we know ended up happening. They say that Juliano was by this time close to Joe Zicarelli. I don't think Juliano was ever made, so curious if he was an associate of the Bonannos after Boiardo.

On page 22 they talk about Willie Moretti confronting Boiardo about having killed so many of his own men, telling Boiardo he might as well gather the rest of his men together and kill them. Keep in mind this is a few years before Boiardo killed even more of his long-time crew members in the early 1970s. They discuss Boiardo killing 5 men at one point but it's not clear who they were. They mention some early names, some of which phonetically match a couple of early Boiardo associates (pre-Genovese family) who were killed and a few pages earlier discussed the murder of Billy Cardinale, a Boiardo soldier killed in the 1950s.

On page 25 you can see Russo use the phrase "making him" to refer to Angelo Bruno wanting to make Tony Caponigro a capodecina. Given that it was also Russo later talking about Gerardo, it lends itself to the idea that he was referring to Gerardo's promotion to capodecina then as well.

On page 27 they refer to Paul Ricca still being the Chicago boss "behind the scenes".

On page 30 they talk about Nick Delmore trying to contact Russo frequently because they both lived in Long Branch. DeCarlo says "everyone else made up with" Delmore and "made him the boss again." This fits with an FBI report that says Delmore had been the boss before Phil Amari, as well as boss after.
Do you know what the "siji" they refer to in the transcript is?

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